Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-12-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Mittwoch 18 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 18 November 2009 01:16:04 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-12-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: To disable namespace, enable embedded, leave everything on, and you will find you can now disable namespaces. did that, as well as the other suggestions by Volker, recompiled kernel sits there and waits until I re-emerged stuff related to that patch-2.6-issue ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-11-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 18 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 18 November 2009 01:16:04 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my kernel-config ... To

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-11-18 Thread daid kahl
To disable namespaces I would have to set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y ... correct? This is rather counterintuitive to me, as my main workstation is far from an embedded or small system (ok, not compared to the 4096-cpu-clusters in http://xkcd.com/619/ , but compared to, for example, my embedded

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-11-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my kernel-config ... To disable namespaces I would have to set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y ... correct? This is rather counterintuitive to me, as my main workstation

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-11-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 18 November 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my kernel-config ... To disable namespaces I would have to set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y ... correct?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config

2009-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 01:16:04 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my kernel-config ... To disable namespaces I would have to set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y ...

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: configuring is easy. enable the hardware you have. disable the hardware you don't have. read the help to all options that are default on - do you really need it? Really? read the help to all options that are off but might be usefull

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Florian Philipp
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Sonntag 08 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 7 Nov 2009, at 11:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... I'd love to know what the name of the kernel module is so I can unload it: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i pegasus CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS=y it is not a module,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Sonntag 08 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 7 Nov 2009, at 11:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... I'd love to know what the name of the kernel module is so I can unload it: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i pegasus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 06:55, Dale wrote: ... I am not you, but I need maybe 5min for a config ;) and there are more benefits. Smaller binary, more cpu cache free for real data. Better performance lies that way. Also, you don't have to wonder about processes you did not start. Security is also

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 08 November 2009 23:20:31 Stroller wrote: You really need to learn to make your own kernel. ... Whilst I agree in principle that a good (slim?) kernel is better and your comments on that, I am sceptical whether the majority of people have the knowledge to make any significant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 08 November 2009 23:20:31 Stroller wrote: You really need to learn to make your own kernel. ... Whilst I agree in principle that a good (slim?) kernel is better and your comments on that, I am sceptical whether the majority of people have the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 09 November 2009 00:20:45 Dale wrote: What he said plus this little tidbit of info. When I built my first kernel, I had no howto except for the basic instructions in the Gentoo install guide. This was about 6 years or so ago and there was not a lot on configuring a kernel except

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 22:20, Dale wrote: ... You seem to think it takes a rocket scientist to build a kernel, it doesn't. You just have to know what hardware you have and then enable the features you need. ... You can config a kernel in less than five minutes most likely then compile and you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 09 November 2009 00:41:08 Stroller wrote: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread. And yet you use gentoo Considering what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 00:20:45 Dale wrote: What he said plus this little tidbit of info. When I built my first kernel, I had no howto except for the basic instructions in the Gentoo install guide. This was about 6 years or so ago and there was not a lot on

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread. I'm with you Stroller. Although I do have to admit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:02:34 +0100, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 00:20:45 Dale wrote: What he said plus this little tidbit of info. When I built my first kernel, I had no howto except for the basic instructions in the Gentoo install guide.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 09 November 2009 01:02:34 Dale wrote: I do find this funny tho. Someone spends the better part of a day installing Gentoo but doesn't think building their own kernel is worth it. Most compiles take longer to finish than configing a kernel. Here's a funnier one: I've actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 23:02, Dale wrote: ... I do find this funny tho. Someone spends the better part of a day installing Gentoo ... You're doing it wrong. ... Most compiles take longer to finish than configing a kernel. I personally don't spend time sitting there watching the progress of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
first kernel I configured and 'maked' myself was 2.2.14 and I was scared. When it finaly booted and everything worked I was overjoyed. I wad even more overjoyed when it performed a lot better than Suse's 2.2.10... which was a bit swap-happy.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 09 November 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread. I'm with you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 09 November 2009 01:21:24 Stroller wrote: And yet you use gentoo Considering what gentoo is and how one interfaces with it, should you not rather be using a binary distro where someone else does the heavy lifting? Something like Fedora, OpenSuse, Ubuntu? Not at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 00:41:08 Stroller wrote: Any time I spend messing with obscure kernel config options is time I could be spending reading a good book, instead [1]. Sorry, spending time configuring my kernel loses, as does this thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 8 Nov 2009, at 23:02, Dale wrote: ... I do find this funny tho. Someone spends the better part of a day installing Gentoo ... You're doing it wrong. Nope, older puter. I've installed Gentoo quite a few times. I have done it without a install guide before. I've even

[gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-07 Thread Stroller
On 7 Nov 2009, at 11:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... I'd love to know what the name of the kernel module is so I can unload it: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i pegasus CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS=y it is not a module, but compiled in. You have to rebuild your kernel. And probably decrapify

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 08 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 7 Nov 2009, at 11:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... I'd love to know what the name of the kernel module is so I can unload it: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i pegasus CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS=y it is not a module, but compiled in. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-07 Thread Stroller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 00:10, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... using a livecds kernel is probably the worst decision out there. http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ as you can see, you don't have to download it. Or just do it step for step, reading help files. seccomp? Except Andrea Arcangeli nobody uses

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 08 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 8 Nov 2009, at 00:10, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... using a livecds kernel is probably the worst decision out there. http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ as you can see, you don't have to download it. Or just do it step for step, reading help

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config WAS: ps shows pegasus process running - what is it?

2009-11-07 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 08 November 2009, Stroller wrote: On 8 Nov 2009, at 00:10, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... using a livecds kernel is probably the worst decision out there. http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ as you can see, you don't have to download it. Or just do