[gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message- From: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:22 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
I believe you're looking for the 'php' USE flag. dev-lang/php is not a USE flag it's the php package. As I stated previously, mmx is not set by default, so '-mmx' is redundant. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:59, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: [Timothy A. Holmes] Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. What makes you think there's a) a slash-notation in USE flags b) this specific USE flag? dev-lang/php really looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a dependency of

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:41 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Michael Crute
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Fine Set use to USE=-*

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Rumen Yotov
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be I am not in the least comfortable with

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:11 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Ra -Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
[Timothy A. Holmes] Randy: That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a production environment. Another user here in my area is working to [Timothy A. Holmes] OOPS _- that should be RYAN --

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: OOPS _- that should be RYAN -- SORRY -- I got fumble fingered Everyone does it the first time. :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread kashani
Ryan Tandy wrote: Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be I am not in the least

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote: Neil: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Set use to USE=-* Emerge -e world I broke my system

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2006 14:33:38 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I will be most interested to read it, but the manpage reader is horrible to try to work from If you use KDE, press Alt-F2 and type '#portage' to get an HTML version of the man page. Or you could use

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Jeremy Olexa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Ryan - - Thanks for the links - Is that info also accessable on the web some place, since I cant print from linux based systems, and especially cant under the live CD? I will be most interested to read it, but the