Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-29 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Some of the widget thingys. What's with the big eyeballs anyway? They watch :) No, there's no other purpose. I have at least one instance of XEyes on my desktop since I found this little application in 1992 when I first started using a Sun

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 16:35:13 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:16:35 -0500, Dale wrote: Speaking of tmpfs, I should have re-emerged OOo on tmpfs. It filled up /var and died, just a few minutes before it would have finished. Oh well, I'll make /var bigger next time. Maybe a couple more Gbs. I put that http-replicator on here

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:16:35 -0500, Dale wrote: Speaking of tmpfs, I should have re-emerged OOo on tmpfs. It filled up /var and died, just a few minutes before it would have finished. Oh well, I'll make /var bigger next time. Maybe a couple more Gbs. I put that

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDE here. I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: I made some screenshots [*] after I started with an empty .kde4 directory one week ago. They show what is started automatically when I log into KDE, well, except for the last desktop where I fired up a browser for online banking. Desktop 1: Administration stuff. A Konsole

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) But even if it were, I guess it wouldn't be too

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 July 2011 19:14:07 Alex Schuster wrote: Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such. Is that Bow Fell

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 July 2011 20:06:09 Alex Schuster wrote: I'll wait a little and then upgrade to 4.7, and then I'll decide if I stay with it. If not, the question would be what to use instead, I would miss so many things. Me too. I'm sure you wouldn't like gnome: it has far too much of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) But even if

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 14:38:01 Dale wrote: How do you tell KDE that you want a widget thingy on one desktop and not all of them? Settings - workspace behavior - Virtual Desktops - Tick diffrent widgets for each desktop in earlier kde versions when they were trying to figure out what to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Peter Humphrey writes: On Thursday 28 July 2011 19:14:07 Alex Schuster wrote: Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:27:48 Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Probably not. The image file name is citrusdal.jpg, this is the name of a small town in South Aftica as Wikipedia tells me. It's a nice town. In season, you can buy the most fantastic oranges there that you ever tasted. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:27:48 Alex Schuster wrote: I would need many more desktops then. How many do you have? Mostly I have six, but when I'm in a major redevelopment phase of my web site that goes up to eight. So you also use activities? I don't, and I think they don't suit me as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) But

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-28 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 15:10 -0500, Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none/var/tmp/portagetmpfs size=10g,nr_inodes=1m I have 4GB ram, and the speed benefit especially for open/libre-office is quite impressive. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 08:24:37 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none/var/tmp/portagetmpfs size=10g,nr_inodes=1m I have 4GB ram, and the speed

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 08:24:37 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none                    /var/tmp/portage  

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 14:29:12 Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: What will libreoffice do if /var/tmp/portage is a tmpfs? Start swapping like mad? No; the tmpfs runs out of space, and the build fails. Had that happen with

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 14:29:12 Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: What will libreoffice do if /var/tmp/portage is a tmpfs?  Start swapping like mad?

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a tmpfs filesystem is half the physical RAM, unless you specify more as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a tmpfs filesystem is half the physical RAM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 15:40:03 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 15:40:03 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing actually measurements

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing actually measurements

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here.  It's not like I'm going to run out or anything.  I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.  That is more than enough to compile

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here.  It's not like I'm going to run out or

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Joshua Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.comwrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:54:22 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. tmpfs isn't implemented as a ramdisk, it's implemented as a thin layer on top of the filesystem cache. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Neil Bothwick wrote: I wasn't thinking of systems with that much memory. Like you, I'd expect your system to be faster, even if not by much, using tmpfs. That's what I was expecting too. It is confusing for sure. Years ago, I used tmpfs, and it was slightly faster, but on

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: That's what I was expecting too. It is confusing for sure. Years ago, I used tmpfs, and it was slightly faster, but on average only few seconds in an hou-long emerge. I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs, you got a lot running or something. o_O That should read less than 2 Gbs all the time. I hit the wrong button. lol Dale :-) :-)

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs, you got a lot running or something.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs,

[gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread Mick
After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there isn't enough space in /var (I have 5.8G and it was asking for more than 7G+). Half way through the emerge I noticed that I have only 74M left and is going down fast!

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread YoYo Siska
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:02:34AM +0100, Mick wrote: After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there isn't enough space in /var (I have 5.8G and it was asking for more than 7G+). Half way through the emerge I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread Mick
On Monday 25 Jul 2011 11:24:33 YoYo Siska wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:02:34AM +0100, Mick wrote: After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there isn't enough space in /var (I have 5.8G and it was asking

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there isn't enough space in /var (I have 5.8G and it was asking for more than 7G+). Half way

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread YoYo Siska
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:40:55AM +0100, Mick wrote: On Monday 25 Jul 2011 11:24:33 YoYo Siska wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:02:34AM +0100, Mick wrote: After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread Mick
On Monday 25 Jul 2011 12:18:34 YoYo Siska wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:40:55AM +0100, Mick wrote: I never understood properly how the mount --bind/rbind works. I understand that the original partition content becomes visible on a second partition, but I'm not at all sure what happens

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 25 July 2011 11:02:34 Mick did opine thusly: After some deliberation I've started emerging libreoffice. It gave the usual office suite warnings at the beginning that there isn't enough space in /var (I have 5.8G and it was asking for more than 7G+). Half way through the emerge I