On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:20:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
No it wouldn't - DST makes it darker in the morning. When I was about
11, the government experimented with using BST all year round. One of
the reasons given for not doing it was that kids would have to go to
school in the dark.
On 26/04/2013 23:28, Nick Khamis wrote:
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
trouble/unstable to setup
On 27/04/2013 03:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
On 27/04/2013 05:44, Andrew Lowe wrote:
Get over it and enjoy the extra hour in the evening. But then again I'm
in Australia where
[snip here]
OK, stop right there. I see where the disconnect comes in.
You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a
lot there.
I am in
On 27/04/2013 00:11, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
I
On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST would have helped.
But
On 27/04/2013 18:24, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock.
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a
lot there.
I am in South Africa. The sun happens to shine a lot in South Africa. It
shines a lot here.
Neil is in England. The sun never shines in England. It
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:24:53 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
But what would make more sense (at least in my mind) would be to have
official 'working hours' changes, and adjust those, rather than change
the clocks - ie, in your example, instead of school starting at 9:00am,
it switches to start at
On 26/04/2013 23:43, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not
On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite time
On 26-Apr-13 16:10, Joseph wrote:
On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are
On 4/26/13, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26-Apr-13 16:10, Joseph wrote:
On 04/25/13 10:33, Nick Khamis wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which would
be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What we would
like
is to set up our own ntp server which other servers and desktops in our
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
would
be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What we
would like
is to set up our
On 26/04/2013 17:54, Nick Khamis wrote:
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
would
be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 17:54, Nick Khamis wrote:
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which
would
be
On 26 April 2013, at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers.
Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS
caching.
I'm not sure if my ISP offers time servers, but Apple and MS both run time
servers which
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
trouble/unstable to setup our own ntp
server that syncs with our local isp, and have our internal network sync
on it?
On 26/04/2013 20:36, Stroller wrote:
On 26 April 2013, at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers.
Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS
caching.
I'm not sure if my ISP offers time servers, but
On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was
On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:54 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM,
On 26/04/2013 23:02, the guard wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC
set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd
things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like
SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeeping
On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote:
Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the
effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much
trouble/unstable to setup our own ntp
server that syncs with our
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and
in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST would have
helped.
No it wouldn't
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
and in the dark to geet their before 9
On 27/04/13 09:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
On 04/27/13 09:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here
either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite time sensitive.
Thanks in Advance,
N.
Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite time sensitive.
Thanks in
On 04/25/2013 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our services are quite
On 2013-04-25 10:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
For contrast, having all nodes sync to pool.ntp.org results in time
variance of up to 2-3 minutes across a dozen or so machines.
That makes no sense...
Not calling you a liar or anything, but it just doesn't make sense.
I can see
On 2013-04-25 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Are these virtualized? It
On 4/25/13, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/25/2013 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
Ummm... *all* servers are critically time-sensitive.
Yeah... I concur ;)
On 04/25/2013 10:46 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-04-25 10:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
For contrast, having all nodes sync to pool.ntp.org results in time
variance of up to 2-3 minutes across a dozen or so machines.
That makes no sense...
Not calling you a liar or anything,
On 04/25/2013 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-04-25 10:33 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
On Thursday 25 April 2013 08:09 PM, Dale wrote:
Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
Our
On 25/04/13 23:07, Nick Khamis wrote:
Ummm... *all* servers are critically time-sensitive.
Yeah... I concur ;)
Define critical! - to my mind if its critical you should be running your
own atomic clock, and something like a pps system to distribute it ...
or somewhere in the middle a local
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Thursday 25 April 2013 08:09 PM, Dale wrote:
Nick Khamis wrote:
Hello Everyone,
We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
considered viable. I did see the
On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
that are resumed, or the whole virtualisation system is hibernated? (ntp
refuses to resync after guest
On 4/25/2013 19:50, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
that are resumed, or the whole virtualisation system is hibernated?
On 26/04/13 07:57, staticsafe wrote:
On 4/25/2013 19:50, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 26/04/2013 01:42, William Kenworthy wrote:
Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both
windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests
that are resumed, or the whole
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