Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2012 18:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.09.2012 20:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This workaround also works in my systemd-only overlay. So, if you have the systemd flag in any of those four packages, disable it and everything should work. Just to

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2012 08:33, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.09.2012 20:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This workaround also works in my systemd-only overlay. So, if you have the systemd flag in any of those four

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff without that flag for a test. Did not work. Rather easy to understand, if neither systemd or consolekit is there, how should

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff without that flag for a test. Did not work.

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.09.2012 20:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: [snip] Great to hear, thanks so far. Looking forward to his reply Stefan, do you use systemd? I don't boot with systemd now (yes, kinda green) ... but have

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.09.2012 20:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This workaround also works in my systemd-only overlay. So, if you have the systemd flag in any of those four packages, disable it and everything should work. Just to be explicit, the versions are: gnome-base/gdm-3.4.1-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: [snip] Great to hear, thanks so far. Looking forward to his reply Stefan, do you use systemd? David told me that he could only check the bug on monday, so I did a little research on the weekend. I installed Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:03:50AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I don't understand, why are you using sudo to run pmount when its core purpose is to be run by normal users? % whatis pmount pmount (1) - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user A normal user can pumount *WHAT

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:50:27 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I don't understand, why are you using sudo to run pmount when its core purpose is to be run by normal users? % whatis pmount pmount (1) - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user A normal user can pumount *WHAT

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:03:50AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I don't understand, why are you using sudo to run pmount when its core purpose is to be run by normal users? % whatis pmount pmount (1) - mount arbitrary

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:19:19 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: A normal user can pumount *WHAT THAT SAME USER* has pmounted. Now try for a general solution. The general solution is using something like udisks+polkit. That is a true general solution; otherwise you end up like the

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:19:19 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: A normal user can pumount *WHAT THAT SAME USER* has pmounted. Now try for a general solution. The general solution is using something like

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.09.2012 16:19, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: The general solution is using something like udisks+polkit. I have troubles with that combo for a month or so ... seems as if polkit-0.107 somehow is responsible for stuff not mounted here. ~amd64 btw, gnome-3-context. udisks comes (/is

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 13.09.2012 16:19, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: The general solution is using something like udisks+polkit. I have troubles with that combo for a month or so ... seems as if polkit-0.107 somehow is responsible for

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.09.2012 18:41, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: It doesn't, but I was under the assumption it was because I'm using systemd. Since I installed gnome-shell-3.4 this has stopped working; my findings can be seen on the bug to freedesktop.org:

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 13.09.2012 18:41, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: It doesn't, but I was under the assumption it was because I'm using systemd. Since I installed gnome-shell-3.4 this has stopped working; my findings can be seen on

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 13.09.2012 18:41, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: It doesn't, but I was under the assumption it was because I'm using systemd. Since I installed gnome-shell-3.4 this has stopped working; my findings can be seen on

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I actually hadn't thought about downgrading polkit, since it was working with the same version in GNOME 3.2. Or maybe it was a fluke (the bug is reproducible, but sometimes I need to try several times). I will

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.09.2012 19:29, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: $ /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --replace --no-debug I think you want debug ... so: $ /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --replace right? No additional output here, tried clicking user-menu (upper right) as mentioned in your bug-report ... I fixed it

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.09.2012 19:31, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Oh, BTW; I just run /usr/sbin/libvirtd --verbose as my user before starting boxes; everything works. It also works invoking qemu by hand. I rebuilt libvirt without the polkit-USE-flag. Standalone box for myself, unix-auth is enough ... IMO. S

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.09.2012 19:48, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I actually hadn't thought about downgrading polkit, since it was working with the same version in GNOME 3.2. Or maybe it was a fluke (the bug is

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 13.09.2012 19:48, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I actually hadn't thought about downgrading polkit, since it was working with

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:19:19AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: A normal user can pumount *WHAT THAT SAME USER* has pmounted. Now try for a general solution. The general solution is using something like

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2012-09-13 20:56, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 13.09.2012 19:48, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I actually hadn't thought

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:47:21 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Fully agree that's a bad idea. My system uses sudoers. I.e. in /etc/sudoers.d/001 I have the lines... user2 d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/ux * waltdnes d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/ux * ...where

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Neil Bothwick was worried at the idea of leaving a root console open for all to access: My machine is not accessible to anyone else, so it's not a problem here. Yes, it's not a good idea if you're in a data centre or open-plan office. --

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Chris Stankevitz asked how to automount a USB stick : A GUI is not necessary. Every time a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that reacts appropriately to those events.

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:56:21 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Why do people want to automount these sticks ? Because it is easy and convenient, something computers are supposed to be good for. I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Every time that a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that reacts appropriately to those events. This is usually udev, but mdev will also work.

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Every time that a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:41:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the implications of leaving open a root console, My scripts use pmount and pumount,

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:41:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:55:41 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the implications of leaving open a root console, My scripts use pmount and

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:51:30PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote It's the idea of leaving a root console open for all to access that is the issue, not the commands you run in it. Fully agree that's a bad idea. My system uses sudoers. I.e. in /etc/sudoers.d/001 I have the lines... user2

[gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, Can someone refer me to a source that explains how when I plug in a USB thumb drive it appears on my XFCE4 desktop (or any other WM)? Ideally the answer will use words like: daemon hal udev policykit consolekit /etc/init.d/* hotplug gvfs mount automount pmount gnome-volume-manager udisks

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 03:56:20PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote Also, ideally after I know about it I'd like to be able to understand and derive on my own the answer to this question: is it possible for TWM to recognize when I plug in a USB thumbdrive and display it for me to use. A GUI

[gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
When I need to mount a removable USB device on LXDE (~amd64) I currently manually issue the mount command. What do I need to do to make automounting possible? According to LXDE wiki (1) you need HAL, which I don't have on my system. I found several suggestions on the net but none seems promising.

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread James Broadhead
On 17 November 2011 09:07, Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: When I need to mount a removable USB device on LXDE (~amd64) I currently manually issue the mount command. What do I need to do to make automounting possible? According to LXDE wiki (1) you need HAL, which I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 17, 2011 4:51 PM, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 09:07, Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: When I need to mount a removable USB device on LXDE (~amd64) I currently manually issue the mount command. What do I need to do to make

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:07:11 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: When I need to mount a removable USB device on LXDE (~amd64) I currently manually issue the mount command. What do I need to do to make automounting possible? The simplest option is to emerge uam. -- Neil Bothwick Will the last

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 11/17/2011 11:37 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:07:11 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: When I need to mount a removable USB device on LXDE (~amd64) I currently manually issue the mount command. What do I need to do to make automounting possible? The simplest option is to

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:22:35 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: 1. udev rules: mounts automatically, with pmount can do non-root un-mounting 2. mdev: according to the man page works only at system boot 3. uam: does not require fiddling with udev rules but cannot un-mount I suppose I'll go with

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 11/17/2011 03:06 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:22:35 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: 3. uam: does not require fiddling with udev rules but cannot un-mount 3 is wrong, you can unmount with pmount, exactly the same as with 1. uam is basically a set of udev rules that

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:58:03 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: The ArchWiki link on Udev posted by James shows how to set a rule for un-mounting: ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/su tomk -c '/usr/bin/pumount /media/%E{dir_name}' Based on your feedback I suppose the same can be

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount with LXDE

2011-11-17 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 11/17/2011 04:54 P, Neil Bothwick wrote: I thought that pcmanfm, the LXDE file manager, had a context menu option to unmount. Me too, and I think that a long time ago I did have it, but now it's not there. Probably I'd better try on the lxde mailing list. thanks, raf