Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-30 1:41 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: All my servers use mdev. 'nuff said. I do remember the conversation about mdev... probably should have paid closer attention. Is the conversion fairly simple? Is there an updated how-to, specifically for older udev (171)?

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-31 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-03-30 1:41 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: All my servers use mdev. 'nuff said. I do remember the conversation about mdev... probably should have paid closer attention. Is the conversion fairly simple? Is there an updated how-to, specifically for older

eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought. Have you thought about switching to eudev? That would solve some udev issues. Since you are running a hardened profile and servers, may not be a option tho. I'm curious... Is eudev still being 'maintained'? Does it

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... On 2013-03-30 10:39 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-03-28

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... As far as I know, it is actively maintained. Do I see the

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 30, 2013 9:48 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... On 2013-03-30

[gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux eselect [18] hardened/linux/amd64 * I don't think they have been

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
So basically rsync configs and databases first? When issuing updates to world and so no. What is the safest process/order to sync portage, and update world? I have seen a number of flags various example use, and was wondering if someone can give me the safest and equally effective commands with

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 11:38 AM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux eselect [18]

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. N. On 3/28/13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 12:56 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. I'm afraid not!

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
So basically, no long weekend for me here in Canada. Thanks a lot guys for your time.Wish me luck. Happy easter/holidays!!! N. On 3/28/13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 03/28/2013 12:56 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4.

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 01:16 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: So basically, no long weekend for me here in Canada. Thanks a lot guys for your time.Wish me luck. Happy easter/holidays!!! I'm being a bit dramatic. I would plan on spending ~4 hours researching, planning, and documenting the udev upgrade. Maybe an

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current profile is invalid. If you have just changed your profile !!! configuration, you should

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 01:43 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current profile is invalid. If you have just

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 28.03.2013 21:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/28/2013 01:43 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
I switched to the default profile from hardened: eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/13.0 * env-update !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5':

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
But we never changed our profile? Always running hardened server. N. On 3/28/13, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: I switched to the default profile from hardened: eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/13.0 * env-update !!! Unable to parse

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
As mentioned earlier a temporary change of profile got me on my way eselect profile set 0 env-update eselect profile set 7 Moving forward... Thanks guys. On 3/28/13, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: But we never changed our profile? Always running hardened server. N. On 3/28/13, Nick

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Dale
Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. N. Just a thought. Have you thought

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Yeah these guys seem to think that our servers MUST run on the hardened profile... On 3/28/13, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Dale
Nick Khamis wrote: Yeah these guys seem to think that our servers MUST run on the hardened profile... I just wanted to mention it in case its existence had slipped your mind. I know when the time came, I switched from udev to eudev and it has worked fine for my desktop. I plug in cameras,