Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:32:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your leisure. Two different actions in time. Assume you sync once a day, and update once a week, the first 6

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:07:10 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your leisure. Two different actions in time. Assume you sync once a day, and update once a week, the first 6

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 13:07, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:32:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your leisure. Two different actions in time. Assume you sync once a

[gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $ whoami stroller $ groups stroller wheel

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Gleb Klochkov
Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. 10.02.2014 20:07 пользователь Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk написал: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 18:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. I don't sync as user alan, I let

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group portage is not enough. That merely lets

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkovglebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that the email file suffix changed from

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: ... There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? To reduce the number of times the

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Tue, 11 February 2014, at 12:05 am, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: ... There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. What's the point, if you still have to run as

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 20:30, Kerin Millar wrote: On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there any specific reason for portage to

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 11/02/2014 01:23, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 01:57, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 03:23, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there