On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Not to long ago, there was only a 150 or so
packages for system regardless of the USE flags.
I think that you are just mistaken about this point. I have pretty
much always been able to make @system package count blow up by
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:10:27 -0600, Dale wrote:
Not exactly. I'm saying I don't think X stuff should be in the system
set regardless of USE flags.
There is no X stuff in @system. what you are seeing is that some
dependencies of @system have X in their IUSE, so pull in X, but that
doesn't
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:10:27 -0600, Dale wrote:
Not exactly. I'm saying I don't think X stuff should be in the system
set regardless of USE flags.
There is no X stuff in @system. what you are seeing is that some
dependencies of @system have X in their IUSE, so
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:24:18 -0600, Dale wrote:
I see your point but that isn't what I have been talking about. When I
run emerge -e system, it pulls in a bunch of X stuff including KDE.
Yea, it is because of USE flags but that didn't used to be the case.
If I recall correctly, my system
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't object to having X stuff installed, I just don't think it should be
pulled into the system set.
The system set (@system) is comprised ONLY of the packages listed in
the various packages files under /usr/portage/profiles.
Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34:09AM -0600, Dale wrote
I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff
to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should
be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. If I disable kde, qt
Am 24.02.2011 01:48, schrieb Alex Schuster:
Looks like normal behaviour to me. @system should be a small set, but
when some packages in @system have kde USE flags, they will pull in KDE
stuff.
One can make an easy test to see how that works:
USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp
Total: 181 packages
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
One can make an easy test to see how that works:
USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp
Total: 181 packages
emerge -e @system -v
Total: 436 packages,
The kde-useflag pulls in a waste of packages
In my system-set are 50 packages:
emerge @system -vp
Total: 50 packages
Walter Dnes wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:57:00AM -0600, Dale wrote
I tried a pretend emerge of khelpcenter. I had to unmask dbus and
allow a bunch of use flags before it would run. Here's what I ended up
with...
USE=accessibility kde dbus qt3support ssl handbook exceptions emerge -pv
Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale:
My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly
small. It's the system set that is larger than normal.
Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal.
The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale:
My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly
small. It's the system set that is larger than normal.
Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal.
The high count of entries in emerge -e
Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale:
If I do this:
USE=-* emerge -pv system
I get this:
Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls)
What a difference USE flags makes huh?
You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages
in @system, because the dependencies are all there at
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale:
My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly
small. It's the system set that is larger than normal.
Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal.
The
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale:
If I do this:
USE=-* emerge -pv system
I get this:
Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls)
What a difference USE flags makes huh?
You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages
in @system, because the
Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put
off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and
versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I
recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote:
I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when
packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do
the same? What about other GUI's?
What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote:
I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when
packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do
the same? What about other GUI's?
What does it matter? They are only
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote:
I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a
limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I
have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it
helps. Since there is some KDE stuff
Am 24.02.2011 16:21, schrieb Dale:
I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a
limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I
have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps.
Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote:
I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a
limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I
have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it
helps. Since
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote:
I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when
packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do
the same? What
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
I posted something a couple of years ago about using -java in
make.conf because I found with +java I got almost twice as many
packages in @system. (Except it wasn't @system at the time) I started
putting java
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:34:09 -0600, Dale wrote:
Actually, it is, because you told it to be. To me, KDE is not a system
package, because I run different USE flags to you. Gentoo gave you the
gun but you pointed it at your foot :)
I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34:09AM -0600, Dale wrote
I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff
to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should
be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. If I disable kde, qt
and all the others
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:28:12 -0600, Dale wrote:
What is KDE and qt doing in there? Did I add these somehow? I'm using
the KDE profile is that where it came from. I just think this is sort
of weird.
The KDE profile sets the kde USE flag - see
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:28:12 -0600, Dale wrote:
What is KDE and qt doing in there? Did I add these somehow? I'm using
the KDE profile is that where it came from. I just think this is sort
of weird.
The KDE profile sets the kde USE flag - see
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:47:59 -0600, Dale wrote:
This is snippets since this is a long list. I can't believe system has
gotten this big. It's almost half the packages on my system. o_O
[nomerge ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.7
[nomerge ] virtual/mysql-5.1
[ebuild R]
On Wednesday 23 February 2011 05:47:59 Dale wrote:
snipped
The total packages it wants to build for system is 401. Is this
normal? I only have about 900 in all. Not to long ago, system was only
about 200 or so.
Dale
:-) :-)
No, that is not (necessarily) normal.
On my system here,
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I been doing a little testing here. I notice something weird here. Did I
do this somehow? Why are these part of the system set?
root@fireball / # emerge -ep system | grep kde
[ebuild R ~] kde-base/kde-env-4.6.0
[ebuild
Neil Bothwick wrote:
This isn't much help, you need the parts where the KDE/QT packages are
shown as ebuild, not nomerge. That will show you what is requiring them.
emerge -ept | grep -B 4 kdelibs should find that for you, or
emerge -ept | most (or your preferred pager)
then search for
On 2/23/2011 10:57 AM, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
This isn't much help, you need the parts where the KDE/QT packages are
shown as ebuild, not nomerge. That will show you what is requiring them.
emerge -ept | grep -B 4 kdelibs should find that for you, or
emerge -ept | most (or your
Mike Edenfield wrote:
Near as I can tell, your problem originates here:
[nomerge ] kde-base/khelpcenter-4.6.0
[nomerge ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.6.0-r1
[ebuild R ~] kde-base/nepomuk-4.6.0
[ebuild R ~] kde-misc/polkit-kde-kcmodules-0.98_pre20101127
[ebuild R ~]
Dale writes:
Mike Edenfield wrote:
Near as I can tell, your problem originates here:
[nomerge ] kde-base/khelpcenter-4.6.0
[nomerge ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.6.0-r1
[ebuild R ~] kde-base/nepomuk-4.6.0
[ebuild R ~] kde-misc/polkit-kde-kcmodules-0.98_pre20101127
[ebuild
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:57:00AM -0600, Dale wrote
I tried a pretend emerge of khelpcenter. I had to unmask dbus and
allow a bunch of use flags before it would run. Here's what I ended up
with...
USE=accessibility kde dbus qt3support ssl handbook exceptions emerge -pv
khelpcenter
I been doing a little testing here. I notice something weird here. Did
I do this somehow? Why are these part of the system set?
root@fireball / # emerge -ep system | grep kde
[ebuild R ~] kde-base/kde-env-4.6.0
[ebuild R ~] kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.6.0
[ebuild R ~]
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