Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 04/01/2018 08:40, Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/01/18 22:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 04/01/2018 00:02, Stroller wrote: >>> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:55, Wols Lists wrote: What would be nice, would be if "emerge --depclean" had the smarts to recognise

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 03/01/18 22:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 04/01/2018 00:02, Stroller wrote: >> >>> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:55, Wols Lists wrote: >>> >>> What would be nice, would be if "emerge --depclean" had the smarts to >>> recognise that /usr/src/linux pointed to the current

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 23:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 22:07:22 +, Stroller wrote: > >>> If you do want to use versions, I'd recommend using ~ rather than = to >>> pick up patch-level updates. >> >> What do you mean by this exactly, please? > > If

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 22:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: > What do you mean by this exactly, please? >>> >>> =4.9.34 selects that exact version and only that specific version >>> ~4.9.34 select that version and also 4.9.34-r1. There might need to be a >>> * on the

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 22:02:37 +, Stroller wrote: > You've jogged a long-hibernating memory - the accidental removal of the > current sources tree in an accident like this may be the exact reason > why I refuse to allow kernel versions to be actively emerged. It's not a big deal, as Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 22:07:22 +, Stroller wrote: > > If you do want to use versions, I'd recommend using ~ rather than = to > > pick up patch-level updates. > > What do you mean by this exactly, please? If you have =foo-1.0 matches only foo-1.0, if a patched version is released as

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 04/01/2018 00:41, Stroller wrote: > >> On 3 Jan 2018, at 22:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > > $ grep -e source /var/lib/portage/world > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.9.34 ... >>> >>> I guess this risks that emerge will try to install 4.9.34-r1 during a

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

I found this helpful in managing kernel versions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwvV2wf-Gk0 On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Stroller wrote: > > > On 3 Jan 2018, at 22:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > $ grep -e source

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 22:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > $ grep -e source /var/lib/portage/world sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.9.34 >>> ... >> >> I guess this risks that emerge will try to install 4.9.34-r1 during a future >> update, but I don't believe I've

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 04/01/2018 00:07, Stroller wrote: > >> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> It installs exactly that version, and that exact version is recorded in >>> the world file. >>> >>> $ grep -e source /var/lib/portage/world >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.9.34 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 04/01/2018 00:02, Stroller wrote: > >> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:55, Wols Lists wrote: >> >> What would be nice, would be if "emerge --depclean" had the smarts to >> recognise that /usr/src/linux pointed to the current active kernel, and >> didn't wipe that when it

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> It installs exactly that version, and that exact version is recorded in >> the world file. >> >> $ grep -e source /var/lib/portage/world >> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.9.34 > > That's not a version, it's a slot. Whilst

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:55, Wols Lists wrote: > > What would be nice, would be if "emerge --depclean" had the smarts to > recognise that /usr/src/linux pointed to the current active kernel, and > didn't wipe that when it cleaned out everything else :-) That way, at >

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 03/01/18 21:39, Stroller wrote: >> What this completely misses, is that gentoo-sources merely DOWNLOADS THE >> > LATEST KERNEL SOURCE. So updating gentoo-sources every time does nothing >> > to change the kernel you are running. > I don't know why you think I missed that. Because you're

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 21:21:30 +, Stroller wrote: > >> This pins your kernel version at 4.14.8-r1 and you can update when, > >> in future, you decide it's time to update your kernel, without being > >> nagged about it every time a new version is release or you emerge > >> world. > > > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/01/18 21:21, Stroller wrote: >> Meanwhile, I've seen security vulnerabilities go unfixed for literally weeks >> in the bug tracker, so I don't see the significance of a vulnerability an >> attacker is unlikely to be able to reach. The sites I visit do not make me >>

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Stroller wrote: > > If the kernel devs cared to announce when they were patching exploits then we > could take each > one under consideration individually. But the kernel devs are secretive about > kernel exploits, because > they

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:31, Wols Lists wrote: > > And heaven help you if you think emerging a specific version of > gentoo-sources will update the kernel you're running. Because Linux > certainly won't. Heaven help me? Could you possibly clarify, please? Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 2 Jan 2018, at 19:47, Wols Lists wrote: > > You should also check the CVEs every time there's a new kernel! Who the heck's got time for that? Really? I have a life, mate. And that means I have better things to do with my time. Translation of what you just said:

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 03/01/18 21:21, Stroller wrote: > Meanwhile, I've seen security vulnerabilities go unfixed for literally weeks > in the bug tracker, so I don't see the significance of a vulnerability an > attacker is unlikely to be able to reach. The sites I visit do not make me > fear my kernel being

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 2 Jan 2018, at 20:20, Kai Krakow wrote: > > >> Now `emerge -n =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1` - "This option can >> be used to update the world file without rebuilding the packages." > > I don't think this is how it works. While technically correct, the >

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On 02/01/18 19:26, Stroller wrote: > >> On 2 Jan 2018, at 11:54, Kruglov Sergey wrote: >> >> Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. >> After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world" command >> emerge installs old kernel in NS (after first

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 11:54:50 +, Kruglov Sergey wrote: > Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. > > After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world" > command emerge installs old kernel in NS (after first update 4.12.12, > after second update 4.9.49-r1). How can I

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

> On 2 Jan 2018, at 11:54, Kruglov Sergey wrote: > > Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. > After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world" command > emerge installs old kernel in NS (after first update 4.12.12, after second > update

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 12:03:24 GMT Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Kruglov Sergey wrote: > > Hello, All! > > > > > > Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. > > > > After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Kruglov Sergey wrote: > Hello, All! > > > Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. > > After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world" command > emerge installs old kernel in NS (after first update 4.12.12, after

[gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

Hello, All! Now I have gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 installed. After "emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world" command emerge installs old kernel in NS (after first update 4.12.12, after second update 4.9.49-r1). How can I fix it? There is sys-kernel/gentoo-sources in my