Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 October 2010 04:50:18 Dale wrote: I think KDE is moving away from hal to tho. I read somewhere the switch is coming. I think it is switching to policykit at some point. I notice it is already in the USE flags for kdelibs here, disabled here at the moment tho. That would be

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2010 04:50:18 Dale wrote: I think KDE is moving away from hal to tho. I read somewhere the switch is coming. I think it is switching to policykit at some point. I notice it is already in the USE flags for kdelibs here, disabled here at the

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 October 2010 11:46:30 Dale wrote: Which brings me to my next question. How is xorg 1.9 working for ya? Any gotchas? May try it here. No problems so far. I had to unmask a more recent version of xorg because version 1.7.7 was incompatible with kernel 2.6.36. Well, I could

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:46 on Thursday 28 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2010 04:50:18 Dale wrote: I think KDE is moving away from hal to tho. I read somewhere the switch is coming. I think it is switching to policykit at

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:46 on Thursday 28 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2010 04:50:18 Dale wrote: I think KDE is moving away from hal to tho. I read somewhere the switch is coming. I think

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:36 on Thursday 28 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: What's the old saying, if it's working, don't fix it. What's the old saying, if it's working, don't fix it, until it's ancient, not supported and your box won't update world anymore so you are up the

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 October 2010 13:35:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: xorg-server 1.8 and 1.9 use mesa-7.8.2, and there's reports around that that version of mesa causes desktop slowdowns. mesa-7.7.1 as used by xorg- server-1.7 is reported to be fine This box has been the most sluggish box I've ever seen

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:36 on Thursday 28 October 2010, Dale did opine thusly: What's the old saying, if it's working, don't fix it. What's the old saying, if it's working, don't fix it, until it's ancient, not supported and your box won't update

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: That's one thing about Gentoo, you get new stuff pretty quick even if you run stable.  If you run unstable, you get things really quick, bugs and all.  ;-) Unstable is still pretty stable. If you really want to have fun start

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale asks: They are probably already moved away from hal. Everybody knows it is going and that is a bleeding edge version of xorg too. I'm still on 1.7.*. Me too. Which brings me to my next question. How is xorg 1.9 working for ya? Any gotchas? May try it here. X starts, but crashes

[gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been off the list a good while and wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. I understand it is being done away with upstream and will probably require some changes on users part. I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:06 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: I've been off the list a good while and wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. I understand it is being done away with upstream and will probably require some changes on users

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use.  For yrs I've used.    Subsection Display      

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Philip Webb
101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; update to Xorg-server = 1.8.0 -drivers = 1.8

Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal

2010-10-27 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: 101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; update to Xorg-server= 1.8.0