Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So, your suggesting the following would have been a better option in this case dev-lang/php4/php4-4.4.3.ebuild dev-lang/php4/php4-4.4.4.ebuild dev-lang/php5/php5-5.1.1.ebuild dev-lang/php5/php5-5.2.0.ebuild Yes. virtual/php/php-5.ebuild -

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Wtf. Newer versions are newer versions. No matter if they are fully backwards compatible or not. I really don't aggree your really loose view of versions. That's like seeing ISDN as an newer version of POTS. Well, if you're convinced about

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-12 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this isn't really about slots vs. no slots, but shows that slots are not necessary. cu Well, IMO everything should be slotted 100% every version able to be installed in parallel, and packages depend on version, and versions with no

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but you see, in half the cases there is not a /complete/ incompatibility. PHP4-5 migration is not an entirely big switch, the biggest problem IIRC in the 4-5 change is the way it handles classes,

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:46:54 Enrico Weigelt wrote: Well, they still are different versions under the same packages from the same projects. Evolutionarily yes, technically no ;-P They're in fact very diffrent, but provide an very similar (almost the same) functionality. The problem is:

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 09 June 2007 08:44:23 Kent Fredric wrote: %=sys-devel/automake-1.9 %=sys-devel/automake-1.9 %=sys-devel/automake-1.9 Why that syntax ? Well , we have a dilemour, if we were to change the way package atoms were named, it  would break /craploads/ of the stuff already available

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, These are packages totally incompatible and so different packages under the same name. They're sometimes necessary, since certain projects still require very old version, even if upgrade wouldn't be such a problem and has already been

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flexibility do I take away exactly ? And what exactly gets harder ? Automated building of dependant packages Gentoo has a collection of magic script that do make this nice for us. ie ( last I looked anyway ) java-config and autoconf

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flexibility do I take away exactly ? And what exactly gets harder ? Automated building of dependant packages More precisely ? AFAICS it

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flexibility do I take away exactly ? And what exactly gets harder ? Automated building of dependant packages More precisely ? AFAICS it would be much easier w/o slots. I already mentioned

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/9/07, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of autoconf, im personally glad it all hides under one non-linear space-time-continumum on my harddrive ;) . The thought of them all being in seperate ebuild names would drive me

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but you see, in half the cases there is not a /complete/ incompatibility. PHP4-5 migration is not an entirely big switch, the biggest problem IIRC in the 4-5 change is the way it handles classes, and a lot of code 'simply works' on both. I had to

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-07 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 07 June 2007 01:44:39 Enrico Weigelt wrote: Now... Why are there multiple versions of java-config, autoconf, and automake shown on my system? These are packages totally incompatible and so different packages under the same name. They're sometimes necessary, since certain

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-31 Thread Denis
broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcjawt.la (requires /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la) broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgij.la (requires /usr/lib/libgcj.la) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29 -- Bo Andresen Thanks, Bo -- editing the .la

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-31 Thread Ric de France
HI... On 31/05/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --prune makes no checks of what's still required. [SNIP] But doesn't --prune just remove all but the most recent installation of a given package? Yes. I knew there was a reason I followed a --prune up with a -DNuva world as

[gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Denis
Hi all... This is the output of emerge --info for the Gentoo box that I'm still configuring - fresh install. I configured and compiled a working version of the kernel, configured CFLAGS and USE flags, etc. I also ran emerge -eD system and emerge -eD world and updated /etc configs accordingly.

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 21:23:00 Denis wrote: Why are there multiple versions of java-config, autoconf, and automake shown on my system? They are incompatible, slotted, and each slot is individually required (or was at some time). There could be other multi-version packages... Is this

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Ric de France
Hi, On 31/05/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There could be other multi-version packages... Is this normal for portage that is configured to autoclean? Yes. Autoclean doesn't uninstall versions in a different slot. I'm not sure about depclean. I think what is more

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 31 May 2007 04:43:07 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There could be other multi-version packages...  Is this normal for portage that is configured to autoclean? Yes.  Autoclean doesn't uninstall versions in a different slot.  I'm not sure about depclean. With the latest

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Denis
On 5/30/07, Ric de France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what is more useful is --prune (I'm guessing as I'm not in front of a Gentoo box at the moment). I usually try: # emerge -Pp Here's the output: myhost etc # emerge -Pp These are the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 31 May 2007 05:53:08 Denis wrote: On 5/30/07, Ric de France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what is more useful is --prune (I'm guessing as I'm not in front of a Gentoo box at the moment). I usually try: --prune makes no checks of what's still required. [SNIP] But doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Denis
While on the subject, I ran a pretend on revdep-rebuild, and it's complaining about some broken libraries in GCC... [SNIP] broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcjawt.la (requires /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la) broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgij.la

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-30 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 31 May 2007 06:25:58 Denis wrote: While on the subject, I ran a pretend on revdep-rebuild, and it's complaining about some broken libraries in GCC... [SNIP] broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcjawt.la (requires /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)