Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-19 Thread Stephane Guilbaud
You can try the Desktop GNUStep avec WindowMaker. On 19/08/2014 07:55, behrouz khosravi wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: Also, I think your subject line, while a valiant effort, is the IT equivalent of don't eat the cookies while I'm gone :P Yea, I

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/08/2014 07:27, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 17.08.2014 um 23:09 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 17/08/2014 20:47, Henrique Lengler wrote: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Nikita Tropin
May be DeadBeeF will suit your needs? I'm using it almost as is but it can be well configured to look similarly to your screenshot. But you will need to configure it yourself to look like screenshot. It has lyrics plugin and can be used with both GTK2 and GTK3. About analog of KRunner I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share. This gives the user a fantastic degree of abstraction because anything that represents data can be a kpart. NFS mounts, smb

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Mick
On Monday 18 Aug 2014 09:20:17 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share. This gives the user a fantastic degree of abstraction because anything

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 20:43 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? thanks. I think the key argument for a DE is integration - all the k* apps built to use k* libraries and backends, allowing them to share data and

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 20:17 +1000, wraeth wrote: (which, admittedly, has it's own issues, but hasn't eaten my mail yet). Addendum: Possibly in a fit of irony, sending my last mail decided to stall evolution's back-end (the mail sent but the compose window was locked at sending and the connection

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 Aug 2014 09:20:17 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share.

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread wraeth
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 20:17 +1000, wraeth wrote: meant either a (non-free though nicely functional) plugin for Thunderbird ([0] for those interested) I also just realized I failed to include the link I mentioned... tonight is not my night... [0] https://exquilla.zendesk.com/home -- wraeth

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Mick
On Monday 18 Aug 2014 11:38:58 Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago Google were using DAV for this purpose, but they decided to change their API. As a result older = 4.4.11.1-r2 KDEPIM versions broke and one had to

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that Google offers two factor authentication (https://www.google.com/landing/2step/#tab=how-it-works) for its services, but if you have not signed up for it you only need a single google account passwd to

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 18 August 2014 11:04:03 Mick wrote: A user asked for their Google Calendar to be synchronised with Korganizer/Kontact and ISTR I enabled USE=google in kde-base/kdepim-runtime, which I think pulled in kde-misc/akonadi-google. Ah, so the Google resources mentioned are just calendar

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: Also, I think your subject line, while a valiant effort, is the IT equivalent of don't eat the cookies while I'm gone :P Yea, I think there will no escape from that!

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 16 August 2014 16:34:23 Poison BL. wrote: I have friends that vary between liking and tolerating Gnome 3, KDE, etc. and I can honestly say the only meaningful factor in deciding what they run has always boiled down to taste. Sit down with each for a week or three (as your main

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Webb
140816 Henrique Lengler wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:31:10PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I do use Evince as a quick alternative to Okular for PDFs . Have you ever tried mupdf or xpdf ? Thanks for the reminder ! -- I do indeed have Mupdf installed, but had forgotten all about it : yes, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Wolfgang Mueller
Thanks for the reminder ! -- I do indeed have Mupdf installed, but had forgotten all about it : yes, it's quick easy for simple browsing. Evince has extra features, eg a side menu, but mb Mupdf is sufficient. If you're looking for a more feature-complete solution, check out llpp[1], which is

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? So, this is more why I'm using KDE and not so much why I'm not using something else. Things I like about KDE: 1. Handles USB

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2014 15:28, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? So, this is more why I'm using KDE and not so much why I'm not using something

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Webb
On 17/08/2014 15:28, Rich Freeman wrote: why I'm using KDE and not so much why I'm not using something else. ... 6. Dolphin mode that gives you a shell that follows the pwd. Have you tried Krusader ? -- it's been my heavy-load FM for a long time. --

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Mick
On Sunday 17 Aug 2014 15:56:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/08/2014 15:28, Rich Freeman wrote: 6. That dolphin mode that gives you a shell that follows the pwd. That is just nifty. #6 - it does? How do I activate that? Might be useful, I didn't even know there was such a fature I use

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 17 Aug 2014 15:56:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/08/2014 15:28, Rich Freeman wrote: 6. That dolphin mode that gives you a shell that follows the pwd. That is just nifty. #6 - it does? How do I activate that?

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Webb
140817 Wolfgang Mueller wrote: Thanks for the reminder ! -- I do indeed have Mupdf installed, but had forgotten all about it : yes, it's quick easy for simple browsing. Evince has extra features, eg a side menu, but mb Mupdf is sufficient. If you're looking for a more feature-complete

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Henrique Lengler
I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being recreated by KDE. Whats the problem to use things that already exists? Why don't include software that is famous and liked by people insted of insist in

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.08.2014 um 20:47 schrieb Henrique Lengler: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being recreated by KDE. Whats the problem to use things that already exists? Why don't include software

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread thegeezer
Howdy, on Enlightenment here, love the customisability mostly and it's slickness - i.e. can load tiling module that switches behaviour (have never used it myself though, can't say how it compares to awm or i3) krunner equivalent is start everything module and resembles gnome-do i prefer to use

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Henrique Lengler
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:57:36PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: hm, tell me, what was there when Konqueror was created? Please do. Maybe also try to spend some times on 'Konqueror is just a shell around different kparts', if you like. And while you are at it, you do know the

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.08.2014 um 20:57 schrieb thegeezer: Howdy, on Enlightenment here, love the customisability mostly and it's slickness - i.e. can load tiling module that switches behaviour (have never used it myself though, can't say how it compares to awm or i3) krunner equivalent is start everything

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread thegeezer
On 17/08/14 20:16, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 17.08.2014 um 20:57 schrieb thegeezer: from my own experience a DE gives you 1. easy hotplug devices i.e. usb disks (or you can emerge dbus,polkit and udisks and add policy rules manually) 2. session management, i.e. you can switch users

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread thegeezer
On 17/08/14 20:54, thegeezer wrote: On 17/08/14 20:16, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: apps that actually work with each other. honestly i've never had issues cross app -- copy/paste of text or files from dolphin to konqueror have never been an issue. *ahem* of course i meant a wider range of

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2014 20:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 17.08.2014 um 20:47 schrieb Henrique Lengler: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being recreated by KDE. Whats the problem to use things

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2014 20:47, Henrique Lengler wrote: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being recreated by KDE. Whats the problem to use things that already exists? Why don't include software

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Henrique Lengler
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:09:24PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: You can't be serious right? Go back and find the original post from the founder of KDE as to why KDE was started at all. It's all about incoherent, mis-matched, ugly-when-bundled together apps that do not work in sympathy. This

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2014 18:19, Mick wrote: For me this plus the shift from KDEPIM 3 to 4 was criminal destruction of value. I live in hope that one day KDE will take a hard long look at itself and go back to KDE 3 architecture; or that nepomuk, akonadi, redland, mysql and what-ever-else they have

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2014 19:21, Rich Freeman wrote: 6. That dolphin mode that gives you a shell that follows the pwd. That is just nifty. #6 - it does? How do I activate that? Might be useful, I didn't even know there was such a fature I use Konqueror (with the dolphin plugin) and F4 opens

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.08.2014 um 23:09 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 17/08/2014 20:47, Henrique Lengler wrote: I don't know why KDE people are creating everything again. koffice, konqueror, a lot of things, that already exists in the linux world are being recreated by KDE. Whats the problem to use things that

[gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hi. I have been using the gnome for some time(in other distro's) and I had no complaint. However after switching to gentoo I installed i3 and it is very great. I really love it, but I was considering to install a DE too. Before jumping to gnome I wanted to evaluate my options. I have heard that

RE: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
xfce4 here, very light weight, customizable, boots up instantly for me.I use nfsv3 and netboot many box's with it as a shared read only root Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:43:29 +0430 Subject: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !) From: bz.khosr...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Mick
On Saturday 16 Aug 2014 17:13:29 behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I have been using the gnome for some time(in other distro's) and I had no complaint. However after switching to gentoo I installed i3 and it is very great. I really love it, but I was considering to install a DE too. Before jumping

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
xfce4 here, very light weight, customizable, boots up instantly for me. I use nfsv3 and netboot many box's with it as a shared read only root Is it as customizable as KDE ? I have installed KDE on a Debian machine and I like it's configurability.

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I've been enjoying LXDE for a long time now. I have installed it along with XFCE (my machines are low on resources*). I can't explain why, but I like LXDE better than XFCE. I've also tried KDE - looks great but as I mentioned I have limited

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Сергей protsero...@gmail.com wrote: I use KDE, because it has biggest amount of functions KDE Connect, KRunner and Amarok have no match in GTK-world. If they had, I would use Xfce. well it seems that Xfce is now really a big player. I guess that it's number

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Henrique Lengler
I never liked any DE. And i hate the KDE things like konsole, konqueror, ktorrent principally when you try to install these in a non KDE system. -- Henrique Lengler https://gitorious.org/~henriqueleng

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Philip Webb
140816 behrouz khosravi wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? I've used Fluxbox for a long time am completely satisfied ; it's very customisable, fast reliable ; I start it with 'startx' ; the only problem is that it's not good at

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 16.08.2014 um 18:13 schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hi. I have been using the gnome for some time(in other distro's) and I had no complaint. However after switching to gentoo I installed i3 and it is very great. I really love it, but I was considering to install a DE too. Before jumping to gnome

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Henrique Lengler
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:31:10PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I do use Evince as a quick alternative to Okular for PDFs . Have you ever tried mupdf? or xpdf? why install a GNOME app when you don't use it? -- Henrique Lengler https://gitorious.org/~henriqueleng

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread Poison BL.
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have been using the gnome for some time(in other distro's) and I had no complaint. However after switching to gentoo I installed i3 and it is very great. I really love it, but I was considering to install a

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-16 Thread microcai
在 2014年8月16日 星期六 21:52:04,Сергей 写道: I use KDE, because it has biggest amount of functions KDE Connect, KRunner and Amarok have no match in GTK-world. If they had, I would use Xfce. Yeah, KRunner is what makes me even unable to use Windows. Also, kdevelop is the best IDE ever created, even