Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-04-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 08:33:20AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > […] > We're going on almost 20 years since the Snowden revelations, and back > then the NSA was basically doing intrusion on an industrial scale. Weeaalll,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
No argument from me. That JiaTan dude had other projects forked he was looking at. And none of them are good news. zstd. lz4. libarchive. squashfs-tools. But still, I think its good news if people already figured how to turn it off in a few days. On 4/1/2024 1:36 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 01:32 +0300, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: > https://piaille.fr/@zeno/112185928685603910 > > There's an ENV var you can set that is a kill switch for the whole thing :) > For the part that we found :) The author of the backdoor had commit access to the upstream repository

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
https://piaille.fr/@zeno/112185928685603910 There's an ENV var you can set that is a kill switch for the whole thing :) On 4/1/2024 1:29 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 18:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: The old version will show up as liblzma.so.5.6.1. Restart anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 18:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > The old version will show up as liblzma.so.5.6.1. Restart anything that > uses it. Or liblzma.so.5.6.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 12:04 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It is not necessary to rebuild anything, unless you're doing something > so unusual that you'd already know the answer to the question. > You should probably reboot afterwards though. For a more fine-grained approach, you can check for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:36 PM Wol wrote: > > On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company > > and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . > > Serving a "secret compliance" notice on a third party is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Wol
On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . Apply pressure to who? At the end of the day, the only people the government can trust are their own agents.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 31.03.2024 14:33, skrev Rich Freeman: (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) It might also happen with commercial software, but the challenge there is HR as you can't just pay 1 person to masquerade as 10 when they all need to deal with payroll taxes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:59 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. > > Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/31/24 07:59, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is needed for now, or are we

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is needed for now, or are we meant to rebuilding any other/all