Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:46:42 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: eselect manages config options between different implementation of a thing. Usually by tweaking symlinks. Switching init OpenRC - SystemD involves resetting uSE flags and recompiling some fundamental stuff. That

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:46:42 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: eselect manages config options between different implementation of a thing. Usually by tweaking symlinks. Switching init OpenRC - SystemD involves resetting uSE flags and

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. How is this done? Here, two GRUB entries; alternatively, eselect init to switch symlinks. It's

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/03/2014 22:33, Tom Wijsman wrote: Good, as you describe after this (cut out), I get the impression that the opposite is the case and there are not enough; a solution to that exists elwhere, in Funtoo, check out their Flavors and Mix-ins: http://www.funtoo.org/Flavors_and_Mix-ins

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. How is this done? Simply by booting without init=. although some packages have been built with USE=systemd they still work when booting using openrc. Of course,

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 4:58 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a bunch of separate profiles? profiles handle

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/02/2014 18:37, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-02-21 4:58 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a bunch of

Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for example, using eselect... Something like: #

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a bunch of separate profiles? profiles handle USE flags, eselect does not. Of course, you can use eselect to