Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
On 2013-03-30 1:41 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: All my servers use mdev. 'nuff said. I do remember the conversation about mdev... probably should have paid closer attention. Is the conversion fairly simple? Is there an updated how-to, specifically for older udev (171)? Thanks...
Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-03-30 1:41 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: All my servers use mdev. 'nuff said. I do remember the conversation about mdev... probably should have paid closer attention. Is the conversion fairly simple? Is there an updated how-to, specifically for older udev (171)? Thanks... Try this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev That was originally done by Walter and he does subscribe to this list, saw a post not to long ago. If you run into issues, I'm pretty sure he will help if he can. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought. Have you thought about switching to eudev? That would solve some udev issues. Since you are running a hardened profile and servers, may not be a option tho. I'm curious... Is eudev still being 'maintained'? Does it still have any advantages over the new udev? I'm mostly concerned about getting so far behind that I end up in an untenable situation... ie, eudev dies in 1+ years, and the changes between now and then make it virtually to update to whatever is the new way...
Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... On 2013-03-30 10:39 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought. Have you thought about switching to eudev? That would solve some udev issues. Since you are running a hardened profile and servers, may not be a option tho. I'm curious... Is eudev still being 'maintained'? Does it still have any advantages over the new udev? I'm mostly concerned about getting so far behind that I end up in an untenable situation... ie, eudev dies in 1+ years, and the changes between now and then make it virtually to update to whatever is the new way...
Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
Tanstaafl wrote: I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... As far as I know, it is actively maintained. Do I see the people banging hammers, no. lol I did have a update on eudev tho: Sun Feb 10 20:07:23 2013 sys-fs/eudev-1_beta2-r2 merge time: 55 seconds. This is from the changelog for eudev: 10 Mar 2013; Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org eudev-.ebuild: Remove hacky export ac_cv_path_GPERF=true since the check is merged upstream 10 Mar 2013; Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org eudev-.ebuild: Depend on gperf only if USE=keymap, bug #452760 20 Feb 2013; Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org files/40-gentoo.rules: Sync 40-gentoo.rules with sys-fs/udev, bug #457868 *eudev-1_beta2-r2 (10 Feb 2013) 10 Feb 2013; Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org +eudev-1_beta2-r2.ebuild, -eudev-1_beta2-r1.ebuild: Rev bump to push out root fix, bug #456384 09 Feb 2013; Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org eudev-1_beta2-r1.ebuild, eudev-.ebuild, +files/eudev-hwdb-offset-root.patch: Update eudev ebuilds to support ROOT properly It seems the latest change was March 10 which was not long ago. As I mentioned earlier, I have plugged in USB sticks, cameras, printers and such pretty regular. The eudev fork has worked fine for me. Servers seem to worry less about *new stuff* since they usually run with what they have at boot time anyway. Heck, mdev may would work fine for you too. It seems based on reading the -dev list that udev is about to introduce some more changes. I'm hoping those don't affect me either. I just noticed that someone else on this list has ran into the news message for it too and has questions already. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!
On Mar 30, 2013 9:48 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... On 2013-03-30 10:39 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought. Have you thought about switching to eudev? That would solve some udev issues. Since you are running a hardened profile and servers, may not be a option tho. I'm curious... Is eudev still being 'maintained'? Does it still have any advantages over the new udev? I'm mostly concerned about getting so far behind that I end up in an untenable situation... ie, eudev dies in 1+ years, and the changes between now and then make it virtually to update to whatever is the new way... All my servers use mdev. 'nuff said. Rgds, --
