[gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:06:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/10/2013 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: I understand that portage defaults to installing multiple versions (of Ruby, Python, and probably other stuff). What I don't understand it _why_. If none of the ebuilds specify q

[gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:19:56 +, Grant Edwards wrote: AFAICT, if you have a global tk USE flag, you can not have 1.8 installed at the same time as 1.9 or 2.0. It looks like ruby 1.8 wants tk built with the same threads setting, and ruby 1.9 and 2.0 (because their threads setting is now

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. I like python - the language was designed by a mathematician and it shows. Contrast with perl which was designed by a linguist, and that shows too. As you say you can't run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 11:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. I like python - the language was designed by a mathematician and it shows. Contrast with perl which was designed by a linguist, and that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:18:43 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 11/12/2013 11:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. I like python - the language was designed by a mathematician and it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 12:23, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:18:43 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 11/12/2013 11:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. I like python - the language was

[gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread eroen
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:01:29 -0500 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: I seem to have two packages from gnome: # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome Calculating dependencies... done! app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by: kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:33:48 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I also like living in a place with 360 days sunshine a year, How tedious, what do you talk about? ;-) The big orange ball in the sky? You have seen it, no? Of course I have, on TV. I do live near Manchester... Well that's what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:38:15 +0100, eroen wrote: I got a cheap (bw) HP LaserJet p1005 half a decade ago. It works well with the drivers from http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ , which lets me avoid using the bloated hplip mess (I tried that when I got the printer, it didn't work with network printing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 12:33:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm sure that to contract isn't it to init there has to be an apostrophe somewhere. I can't figure out where to put it... Avoid the issue by using the more common spelling: innit. -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Philip Webb: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Does anyone have thoughts or

Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2013/12/11 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Does anyone have

Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Dale
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2013/12/11 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net mailto:purs...@ca.inter.net My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has

[gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-11, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. I like python - the language was designed by a mathematician and it shows. Contrast with perl which was designed by a

[gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread James
Daniel Pielmeier billie at gentoo.org writes: Does anyone have thoughts or suggestions ? This thread has identified the software (driver) issues for you. Imho, all HP's work one way or another. Laser* is far superior to ink* desk*. Brother printers, are a project to get working under

[gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-11, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Does

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: I seem to have two packages from gnome: # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome Calculating dependencies... done!

Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/11/2013 03:01:29 AM, Philip Webb wrote: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Does anyone have

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 18:29, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote: I seem to have two packages from gnome: # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome Calculating dependencies... done!

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: $ equery depends print-manager * These packages depend on print-manager: kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ? =kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=]) Set USE=-cups to fix Confirmed. I didn't have kdeutils-meta installed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Philip Webb
131211 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-11, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. Unless you want to print little other than

Re: [gentoo-user] new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 11.12.2013 03:01, schrieb Philip Webb: My ancient printer's ink cartridge has finally dried up the mobo in my regular computer accepts only USB. I don't do much printing, but occasionally need a few pages. The local store has an HP Deskjet 2510 on sale this week. Does anyone have

[gentoo-user] Re: new printer : any thoughts ?

2013-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-11, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: Thanks for this the other replies. The local store has on sale a Brother HL-2240D Monochrome Laser Printer, 24 PPM Mono, 2400 x 600 DPI, Duplex Printing, USB Connectivity. Any further comments from anyone?

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: $ equery depends print-manager * These packages depend on print-manager: kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ? =kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=]) Set USE=-cups

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 23:04, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: $ equery depends print-manager * These packages depend on print-manager: kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ?

[gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)

2013-12-11 Thread gottlieb
At home I use a wired connection so did notice the following problem until I traveled and tried to connect wirelessly. The problem must have started sometime within the past month. If I have wicd started by systemd, i.e. systemctl enable wicd The wired network is started fine but not the