Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 09:05:09 PM James wrote: J. Roeleveld joost at antarean.org writes: AFS has caching and can survive temporary disappearance of the server. Excellent for low bandwidth connections. Most DFS have mechanisms to deal with transient failures, but not as

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:34:01 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: AFAIR dcop was replaced, because of the freedesktop-gnome guys. Not because anything was wrong with it. And look where it got us. No improvement at all. It wasn't really replaced as dbus was derived from DCOP, so it was more of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 04:20:24 PM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: As far as HDFS goes, I would only set that up if you will use it for Hadoop or related tools. It's highly specific, and the performance is not good unless you're doing a massively parallel read (what it was designed for). I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:19:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Is systemd starting to encompass too much? I think so, but who cares? If we want an init manager that reads systemd-like files but doesn't do anything else (hostnamectl, logging, udev, etc.), I guess we'll have to make one. or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/09/2014 10:07, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:19:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Is systemd starting to encompass too much? I think so, but who cares? If we want an init manager that reads systemd-like files but doesn't do anything else (hostnamectl, logging, udev, etc.), I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 20:54:49 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: The fact is among those actually contributing to projects like openrc, udev, eudev, and systemd everybody tends to get along just fine. There is plenty of interest in finding common ground and collaborating so that anybody switching from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 08:56:28 PM James wrote: Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: As far as HDFS goes, I would only set that up if you will use it for Hadoop or related tools. It's highly specific, and the performance is not good unless you're doing a massively

Re: [gentoo-user] File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 17/09/2014 19:21, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 17 September 2014 20:10:57 CEST, Hervé Guillemet he...@guillemet.org wrote: Le 16/09/2014 21:07, James a écrit : By now many are familiar with my keen interest in clustering gentoo systems. So, what most cluster technologies use is a distributed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 17/09/2014 21:20, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: As far as HDFS goes, I would only set that up if you will use it for Hadoop or related tools. It's highly specific, and the performance is not good unless you're doing a massively parallel read (what it was designed for). I can elaborate why if anyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
The HTML...it hurts my eyes... :) On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:24 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 08:56:28 PM James wrote: Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: As far as HDFS goes, I would only set that up if you will use it for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 05:48:58 AM Rich Freeman wrote: The HTML...it hurts my eyes... :) Apologies. My current understanding is: - ZFS is production ready, but due to licensing issues, not included in the kernel - BTRFS is included, but not yet production ready with

Re: [gentoo-user] Reverse Tethering - How to?

2014-09-18 Thread Stroller
On Wed, 17 September 2014, at 12:31 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... In this case the USB is being used as an ethernet connection - you're simply asking for the routing to occur in the opposite direction. Helmut is trying to do the opposite. He wants the mobile phone to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Reverse Tethering - How to?

2014-09-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:41:52 PM Stroller wrote: On Wed, 17 September 2014, at 12:31 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... In this case the USB is being used as an ethernet connection - you're simply asking for the routing to occur in the opposite direction.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 09/18/2014 05:17 AM, Kerin Millar wrote: On 17/09/2014 21:20, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: As far as HDFS goes, I would only set that up if you will use it for Hadoop or related tools. It's highly specific, and the performance is not good unless you're doing a massively parallel read (what it

[gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hi. I have just installed the kde desktop. I like the overall experience but its kind of buggy. For example the last problem that I had, system setting was not responding till the next reboot. I have not used kde before so, I was wondering that is buggy or I have configured something wrong?

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 09/18/2014 09:15 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I have just installed the kde desktop. I like the overall experience but its kind of buggy. For example the last problem that I had, system setting was not responding till the next reboot. I have not used kde before so, I was wondering that

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread behrouz khosravi
I just wanted to open system setting to configure the screen brightness, but it was not loading. It is working good is general. On Sep 18, 2014 5:48 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel alec a...@alectenharmsel.com@ a...@alectenharmsel.comalectenharmsel.com a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:15

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:56:58 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: I just wanted to open system setting to configure the screen brightness, but it was not loading. What does it tell you if you run systemsettings from a terminal? PS Please don't top-post. -- Neil Bothwick System halted - Press

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread behrouz khosravi
It does not do anything. Not printing any messages. I know that if I reboot, the problem will be gone(I had the same problem before) but its a little annoying. sorry for the top-posting. I am using my phone, and its a little hard to edit the text!

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:18:16 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:15 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I have just installed the kde desktop. I like the overall experience but its kind of buggy. For example the last problem that I had, system setting was not responding till

Re: [gentoo-user] Reverse Tethering - How to?

2014-09-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 18 September 2014 14:57:13 J. Roeleveld wrote: On my Galaxy S4, that option does not exist. Not even when connected via USB. It's present on my Nexus 5, but it's under Settings More... (in the Wireless Networks section of Settings) Tethering portable hotspot. -- Regards

Re: [gentoo-user] Reverse Tethering - How to?

2014-09-18 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 18 September 2014, at 1:57 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... My Android appears to allow networking over its USB connection in both directions - I attach two screenshots. ... Which phone is that? On my Galaxy S4, that option does not exist. Not even when connected

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:18:16 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:15 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I have just installed the kde desktop. I like the overall experience but its kind of buggy. For example the last problem that I had, system setting was not

Re: [gentoo-user] Is kde really buggy or it is me?!

2014-09-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 09/18/2014 10:15 AM, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2014 09:18:16 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:15 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hi. I have just installed the kde desktop. I like the overall experience but its kind of buggy. For example the last

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It's an interesting read; I highly recommend it. Indeed. Thanks for the link!

[gentoo-user] Re: Eapi 6 ?

2014-09-18 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: snip The rest was gathered by starting at http:///www and working down... Neil, You should start a Neils-tips page on wiki.gentoo.org Order them as you like; kind of like your limricks in our signature. That way, when folks ask questions, we can

[gentoo-user] Re: File system testing

2014-09-18 Thread James
Hervé Guillemet herve at guillemet.org writes: Le 16/09/2014 21:07, James a écrit : By now many are familiar with my keen interest in clustering gentoo systems. So, what most cluster technologies use is a distributed file system on top of the local (HD/SDD) file system. Have you

[gentoo-user] OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread James
Hello, Out Of Memory seems to invoke mysterious processes that kill such offending processes. OOM seems to be a common problem that pops up over and over again within the clustering communities. I would greatly appreciate (gentoo) illuminations on the OOM issues; both historically and for folks

Re: [gentoo-user] OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/09/2014 16:48, James wrote: Hello, Out Of Memory seems to invoke mysterious processes that kill such offending processes. OOM seems to be a common problem that pops up over and over again within the clustering communities. I would greatly appreciate (gentoo) illuminations on the OOM

[gentoo-user] crontab - and' condition

2014-09-18 Thread Joseph
I want to run a cron job only once a month. The problem is the computer is only on on weekdays Mon-Fri. 1-5 cron tab as this below is an or condition as it has entries in Days of the Months and Day of the Week 5 18 1 * 2 rsync -av ... so it will run on days 1 or Tuesday of each months.

Re: [gentoo-user] OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread Godzil
You could also disable the overcommitment so that an app that ask for too much memory will be denied (you know the possible NULL pointer malloc could return. With overcommit, it will never return NULL whatever the memory status is. Without this, all requested memory is really allocated, and

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab - and' condition

2014-09-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/09/2014 17:44, Joseph wrote: I want to run a cron job only once a month. The problem is the computer is only on on weekdays Mon-Fri. 1-5 cron tab as this below is an or condition as it has entries in Days of the Months and Day of the Week 5 18 1 * 2 rsync -av ... so it will run on

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab - and' condition

2014-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/09/2014 18:44, Joseph wrote: I want to run a cron job only once a month. The problem is the computer is only on on weekdays Mon-Fri. 1-5 cron tab as this below is an or condition as it has entries in Days of the Months and Day of the Week 5 18 1 * 2 rsync -av ... so it will

[gentoo-user] Re: OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread James
Kerin Millar kerframil at fastmail.co.uk writes: The need for the OOM killer stems from the fact that memory can be overcommitted. These articles may prove informative: http://lwn.net/Articles/317814/ Yea I saw this article. Its dated February 4, 2009. How much has changed with the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 23:03 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep

Re: [gentoo-user] OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: The need for the OOM killer stems from the fact that memory can be overcommitted. These articles may prove informative: A big problem with Linux along these fronts is that we don't really have good mechanisms for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/09/2014 19:27, James wrote: Kerin Millar kerframil at fastmail.co.uk writes: The need for the OOM killer stems from the fact that memory can be overcommitted. These articles may prove informative: http://lwn.net/Articles/317814/ Yea I saw this article. Its dated February 4, 2009.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-09-18, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Mark David Dumlao wrote: The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: The only Linux systems where I care about boot time are embedded systems which are never going to have the resources needed to run systemd. How about containers? When I launch mariadb I'd prefer that it happen in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 19/09/14 03:18, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-09-18, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Mark David Dumlao wrote: The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it took since you first posted

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-09-18, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: The only Linux systems where I care about boot time are embedded systems which are never going to have the resources needed to run systemd. How about

[gentoo-user] Re: OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread James
Kerin Millar kerframil at fastmail.co.uk writes: A new tunable, oom_score_adj, was added, which accepts values between 0 and 1000. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/a63d83f#include/linux/oom.h FANTASTIC! Exactly the sort of info I'm looking for learn the pass, see what has been

[gentoo-user] Re: OOM memory issues

2014-09-18 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: A big problem with Linux along these fronts is that we don't really have good mechanisms for prioritizing memory use. You can set hard limits of course, which aren't flexible, but otherwise software is trusted to just guess how much RAM it should

Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-18 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/11/2014 10:34 AM, Grant wrote: When you get a chance, I'd be interested to know which opengl package has vaapi/vdpau USE and also your output for: # eselect opengl list - Grant Hi Grant, I haven't forgotten, just been really busy with work. Here's some info - Card: 00:02.0 VGA

Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-18 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/11/2014 10:34 AM, Grant wrote: When you get a chance, I'd be interested to know which opengl package has vaapi/vdpau USE and also your output for: Argh! My last post to the list - I played the 1080i with 5 channel audio (using 5-10%) with _mythtv_ not mplayer2. Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab - and' condition

2014-09-18 Thread Joseph
On 09/18/14 19:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2014 18:44, Joseph wrote: I want to run a cron job only once a month. The problem is the computer is only on on weekdays Mon-Fri. 1-5 cron tab as this below is an or condition as it has entries in Days of the Months and Day of the Week 5 18 1