Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance'
- Original Message From: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 1:26:30 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance' On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is somewhat off-topic but I am losing friends here by telling them all the time that they should install Linux or at least install and configure VNC if they need my help ... plus some of them I don't mind helping anyway. Lesser MSWindows versions do not seem to allow connections via RDP and therefore rdesktop and krdc will not connect to them without some VNC server running on the Windows machine. Meanwhile Windows has this 'Remote Assistance' function, which allows what it says and uses PRNP (Peer Name Resolution Protocol). AFAIK, PRNP is just a way to make the RDP sessions hook-up - it's usually integrated with Windows Messenger IM client. If they have Remote Assistance available, then they also have the ability to enable RDP - it's in the same location to enable, though I think only Remove Assistance is enabled by default. Just have them go (via Classic Control Panel): Start-Settings-Control Panel-System. Then click on the Remote tab, which presents options for Remote Assistance and Remote Desktop. I don't think RDP is available on Win2k without licenses - it's just Terminal Services. However, it is available on WinXP and later; however, without the Terminal Services licenses you cannot be logged in at the same time. $0.02 Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance'
On 22 November 2010 14:36, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 1:26:30 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance' On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is somewhat off-topic but I am losing friends here by telling them all the time that they should install Linux or at least install and configure VNC if they need my help ... plus some of them I don't mind helping anyway. Lesser MSWindows versions do not seem to allow connections via RDP and therefore rdesktop and krdc will not connect to them without some VNC server running on the Windows machine. Meanwhile Windows has this 'Remote Assistance' function, which allows what it says and uses PRNP (Peer Name Resolution Protocol). AFAIK, PRNP is just a way to make the RDP sessions hook-up - it's usually integrated with Windows Messenger IM client. If they have Remote Assistance available, then they also have the ability to enable RDP - it's in the same location to enable, though I think only Remove Assistance is enabled by default. Only the Professional/Ultimate/Enterprise have the RDP functionality. The bottom half of the configuration popup with the options for RDP is missing from Starter/Home Basic/Home Premium versions. Just have them go (via Classic Control Panel): Start-Settings-Control Panel-System. Then click on the Remote tab, which presents options for Remote Assistance and Remote Desktop. As I said, lesser Windows versions only have Remote Assistance. They do not come with a 'terminal services' server: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Remote-Desktop-Connection-frequently-asked-questions I don't think RDP is available on Win2k without licenses - it's just Terminal Services. However, it is available on WinXP and later; however, without the Terminal Services licenses you cannot be logged in at the same time. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance'
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is somewhat off-topic but I am losing friends here by telling them all the time that they should install Linux or at least install and configure VNC if they need my help ... plus some of them I don't mind helping anyway. Lesser MSWindows versions do not seem to allow connections via RDP and therefore rdesktop and krdc will not connect to them without some VNC server running on the Windows machine. Meanwhile Windows has this 'Remote Assistance' function, which allows what it says and uses PRNP (Peer Name Resolution Protocol). I've been trying to find a Linux tool to connect to a Windows box which has issued a PRNP invitation, but can't find a means of doing this. Is this all completely proprietary or is there some UPnP linux solution that works? -- Regards, Mick Yeah, I'd like to find a simple solution for this also. Currently I use VNC for Linux remote support. For Windows remote I run VMWare/Win XP and run Go2Meeting. It would be great to do that all from my KDE desktop without depending on XP. Go2Meeting is a paid subscription which I use for trading so it's not a good solution for others. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Windows 'Remote Assistance'
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:29 on Sunday 21 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: I know this is somewhat off-topic but I am losing friends here by telling them all the time that they should install Linux or at least install and configure VNC if they need my help ... plus some of them I don't mind helping anyway. Lesser MSWindows versions do not seem to allow connections via RDP and therefore rdesktop and krdc will not connect to them without some VNC server running on the Windows machine. Meanwhile Windows has this 'Remote Assistance' function, which allows what it says and uses PRNP (Peer Name Resolution Protocol). I've been trying to find a Linux tool to connect to a Windows box which has issued a PRNP invitation, but can't find a means of doing this. Is this all completely proprietary or is there some UPnP linux solution that works? First I'd fix the human/social problems, then the technical ones. If you lose friends because you can't help them with Windows... Jezz. The tell them to install TightVNC as otherwise there's didly-squat you can do -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
