Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-25 Thread Philip Webb
060224 John J. Foster wrote:
 On my KDE desktop in the File Open dialog boxes on both Firefox  OOo
 I can't find where to tell them to display hidden folders/files.

I'm using Firefox 1.5  OO 2.0 on KDE 3.5.1 :
for Firefox, R-click on the actual dir/file list  show hidden files;
for OO, ditto  follow View  ditto or toggle with  F8 .

Generally, when you can't find something, R-click often brings up a list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-25 Thread Holly Bostick
John J. Foster schreef:
 On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:59:19AM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 John J. Foster schreef:
 Good evening,
 
 I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on
 both Firefox  OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to
 display hidden folders and/or files.
 For firefox, if a Save dialog, select Browse for other folders,
 then right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the
 folder list on the left-- and select Show hidden files. For the
 Open dialog, you don't have to browse, obviously.
 
 Thanks, that works fine. Even for the Open File, which I'm not sure
 why you wouldn't think I'd have to browse.

Sorry, it was late for me and I was typing fast. What I meant is that
for the Save dialog, you have to open the Browse section of the dialog
window by opening Browse for other folders, so showing hidden files is
two steps, but the Open dialog begins with a Browse window, so you only
have one step.

 However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink
 from the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but
 without the preceding ., that way the symlink won't be hidden.
 
 Yeah, but that's really lame that I'd have to do that. OOo can be so 
 advanced on some things, and so incredibly stupid on others.

Lame? I dunno. Is it 'lamer' than having to type a path or filename in
the dialog? Or 'lamer' than Joseph's suggestion (which doesn't work for
me using OO.o-2.02_rc2):

Joseph schreef:
 
 Yes, it is there for OO as well. When you click on Open File, the
 window will have few icons, click on the available icons and you will
 find it :-)
 

In my Open dialog (OOWriter), there are 3 button icons: Up one level in
the filetree, Make new folder, and Home. This is exactly what I would
expect, and these buttons do exactly what I would expect. There is no
context menu for them, and if the menu exists on the main window, I
don't see it, and I didn't find it in the Preferences screen last night.

I don't know about you, but to me, one 10-second task (making a symlink
to a folder which is likely not hidden by my choice but by default, such
as config files in my /home folder which I often edit), and afterwards
knowing that it's /done/ and I don't have to worry about it any more, is
much less 'lame' than having to search for 10 minutes for a stupid
setting in the program in question (Firefox, as a GNOME program, puts
the setting one place, Krusader, as a KDE program, puts the setting
another place, and OO.o, as an independent program, puts it $DEITY knows
where, if the setting exists at all).

But perhaps you have different needs (as a single home user, I don't
particularly have any need to hide any files from possible abuse, so
while I may work with hidden files often, they aren't
mission-critical, voluntarily hidden files).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-25 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 26 February 2006 01:55, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 See
 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087highlight=filepicker+kde

nice site. opens up a few posibilities too. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-25 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:55:05PM +, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087highlight=filepicker+kde
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you - just what I wanted

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-24 Thread Holly Bostick
John J. Foster schreef:
 Good evening,
 
 I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
 Firefox  OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display hidden
 folders and/or files. 

For firefox, if a Save dialog, select Browse for other folders, then
right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list on
the left-- and select Show hidden files. For the Open dialog, you
don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).

There does not seem to be a global setting for OO.o. Of course, if you
know the filename, you can just type it once in the correct folder; this
also works for folders. In the case of a folder, this will take you to
the folder, where you can then select the file.

However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink from
the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but without the
preceding ., that way the symlink won't be hidden.

 Also, in Firefox the only columns available in the
 File dialog boxes are Name and Modified. I know size was there in 1.0.7.

Yes, apparently Name and Modified are the only columns available. Things
change. 1.5 is a long way from 1.0.7. Myself, I don't need the filesize
in a web-browser save dialog (I find Modified date much more useful),
but everybody's different.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-24 Thread Joseph
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 02:59 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
  I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
  Firefox  OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display
 hidden
  folders and/or files. 
 
 For firefox, if a Save dialog, select Browse for other folders, then
 right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list
 on
 the left-- and select Show hidden files. For the Open dialog, you
 don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
 it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).
 
 There does not seem to be a global setting for OO.o. Of course, if you
 know the filename, you can just type it once in the correct folder;
 this
 also works for folders. In the case of a folder, this will take you to
 the folder, where you can then select the file.

Yes, it is there for OO as well.
When you click on Open File, the window will have few icons, click on
the available icons and you will find it :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox OOo oddness

2006-02-24 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:59:19AM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 John J. Foster schreef:
  Good evening,
  
  I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
  Firefox  OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display hidden
  folders and/or files. 
 
 For firefox, if a Save dialog, select Browse for other folders, then
 right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list on
 the left-- and select Show hidden files. For the Open dialog, you
 don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
 it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).

Thanks, that works fine. Even for the Open File, which I'm not sure why 
you wouldn't think I'd have to browse.
 
 However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink from
 the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but without the
 preceding ., that way the symlink won't be hidden.
 
Yeah, but that's really lame that I'd have to do that. OOo can be so
advanced on some things, and so incredibly stupid on others.

Thanks agin,
festus

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