Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2020/02/17 at 02:31am, Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> I been playing with this add-on and watched some videos on it. While >> it does some things better, it just isn't specific enough for what I >> need. In some cases, if I blocked scripts with it, some sites >> wouldn't work at all or caused other issues. In a way it's better than >> noscript but it still just doesn't go far enough. I wish adblock >> would list elements the way it used to. That worked great because I >> could block scripts on a individual basis. Allow the ones I need and >> block the ones that cause issues. > I'm really surprised that umatrix (not ublock origin!) can't do what you > need. As you note, it is much more granular than NoScript. Blocking > elements at the subdomain level, you'd think, would be granular enough > for most web pages. > > Are you saying you want to additionally allow / block scripts not just > on a per-subdomain basis but on a per-individual-script basis? I've been > using things like NoScript and uMatrix for many years, and I don't think > even I would want to deal with that. How would you know which ones to > allow? The Reg is showing 7, of which I allow 3. The Guardian has like > 28, of which I allow 19. It would not be fun to try to go through all of > those to figure out which ones are absolutely necessary. You'd be > examining, allowing, and reloading 20 times per site, at first. > > Maybe the Tor Browser people would be interested in working on such an > add on? > Yes, blocking on a per script basis is what I need. On one site, I'm sure it has a couple dozen scripts on it. From what I could see, I really only need to block 2 maybe 3. The others are needed for certain things on the page to work. Some are needed to make the page load at all. The thing about getting it set up, once done, it's done. It may take 30 minutes or a hour but once it is done, it won't require much if any attention from then on. As I pointed out, I used to do this in Seamonkey with adblock. It worked well. In some cases, I'd block all by default and then set exceptions for the ones I need to work. Whichever is easier. Maybe one day I'll run up on a add-on that does this. Maybe. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
On 2020/02/17 at 02:31am, Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > I been playing with this add-on and watched some videos on it. While > it does some things better, it just isn't specific enough for what I > need. In some cases, if I blocked scripts with it, some sites > wouldn't work at all or caused other issues. In a way it's better than > noscript but it still just doesn't go far enough. I wish adblock > would list elements the way it used to. That worked great because I > could block scripts on a individual basis. Allow the ones I need and > block the ones that cause issues. I'm really surprised that umatrix (not ublock origin!) can't do what you need. As you note, it is much more granular than NoScript. Blocking elements at the subdomain level, you'd think, would be granular enough for most web pages. Are you saying you want to additionally allow / block scripts not just on a per-subdomain basis but on a per-individual-script basis? I've been using things like NoScript and uMatrix for many years, and I don't think even I would want to deal with that. How would you know which ones to allow? The Reg is showing 7, of which I allow 3. The Guardian has like 28, of which I allow 19. It would not be fun to try to go through all of those to figure out which ones are absolutely necessary. You'd be examining, allowing, and reloading 20 times per site, at first. Maybe the Tor Browser people would be interested in working on such an add on? -- Chris Spackman ch...@osugisakae.com ESL Coordinator The Graham Family of Schools ESL Instructor Columbus State Community College Japan Exchange and Teaching Program Wajima, Ishikawa 1995-1998 Linux user since 1998 Linux User #137532
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Dale wrote: > Corpo wrote: >> Le 24/01/2020 à 22:52, Dale a écrit : >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have >>> noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is >>> times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find >>> anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't >>> pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some >>> scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either >>> allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block >>> tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow >>> others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, >>> to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type >>> and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that >>> allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. >>> >>> I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them >>> seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only >>> had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever >>> seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that >>> works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be >>> selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. >>> >>> Thanks much to all. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >> umatrix maybe? >> >> >> > > I installed it and I think it will do what I want. I just need to > figure out the details of how to make it get there. Based on the > description, it seems to be the best one yet. Now to head over to > youtube and see some tips and tricks. ;-) I might add, one website > that was really bad seems to be a lot better. Time will tell tho. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > I been playing with this add-on and watched some videos on it. While it does some things better, it just isn't specific enough for what I need. In some cases, if I blocked scripts with it, some sites wouldn't work at all or caused other issues. In a way it's better than noscript but it still just doesn't go far enough. I wish adblock would list elements the way it used to. That worked great because I could block scripts on a individual basis. Allow the ones I need and block the ones that cause issues. Thanks for the info. It was worth a try at least. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Corpo wrote: > Le 24/01/2020 à 22:52, Dale a écrit : >> Howdy, >> >> I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have >> noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is >> times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find >> anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't >> pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some >> scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either >> allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block >> tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow >> others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, >> to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type >> and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that >> allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. >> >> I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them >> seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only >> had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever >> seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that >> works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be >> selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. >> >> Thanks much to all. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> > umatrix maybe? > > > I installed it and I think it will do what I want. I just need to figure out the details of how to make it get there. Based on the description, it seems to be the best one yet. Now to head over to youtube and see some tips and tricks. ;-) I might add, one website that was really bad seems to be a lot better. Time will tell tho. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Try enabling clang and see what happens. llvm is a really good piece of software. I generally also have pulseaudio and hwaccel enabled but thats up to you. --- Aisha blog.aisha.cc On 2020-01-25 04:39, Dale wrote: Hi, I'm checking that as I type. It may not solve all my problems but it may certainly help. Some scripts make one CPU core go to 100% and locks up the tab the script is running on. Firefox, to its credit, is sane enough to allow other tabs to work tho. At least it doesn't completely lock up the whole thing. Good code I guess. ;-) Anyway, it does that for about 30 seconds or so, I assume it times out or something. Still, very annoying and worthy of just blocking the script completely. It appears clang is disabled. If I read that correctly, that is the ideal setting. [ebuild R ~] www-client/firefox-72.0.1::gentoo USE="gmp-autoupdate screenshot startup-notification system-av1 system-icu system-jpeg system-sqlite system-webp -bindist -clang -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -eme-free -geckodriver -hardened -hwaccel -jack -lto -pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-libevent -system-libvpx -test -wayland -wifi" CPU_FLAGS_X86="-avx2" Thanks for the tip. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Top posting since reply was also. Could be device related. I dunno. aisha wrote: Firefox currently has some issues with addons and local storage. Do you have the use `clang` flag enabled? This compiles firefox using clang-llvm and fixes a lot of the problems. --- Aisha www.aisha.cc On 2020-01-24 22:52, Dale wrote: Howdy, I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. Thanks much to all. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Le 24/01/2020 à 22:52, Dale a écrit : > Howdy, > > I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have > noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is > times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find > anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't > pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some > scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either > allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block > tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow > others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, > to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type > and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that > allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. > > I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them > seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only > had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever > seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that > works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be > selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. > > Thanks much to all. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > umatrix maybe?
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Hi, I'm checking that as I type. It may not solve all my problems but it may certainly help. Some scripts make one CPU core go to 100% and locks up the tab the script is running on. Firefox, to its credit, is sane enough to allow other tabs to work tho. At least it doesn't completely lock up the whole thing. Good code I guess. ;-) Anyway, it does that for about 30 seconds or so, I assume it times out or something. Still, very annoying and worthy of just blocking the script completely. It appears clang is disabled. If I read that correctly, that is the ideal setting. [ebuild R ~] www-client/firefox-72.0.1::gentoo USE="gmp-autoupdate screenshot startup-notification system-av1 system-icu system-jpeg system-sqlite system-webp -bindist -clang -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -eme-free -geckodriver -hardened -hwaccel -jack -lto -pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-libevent -system-libvpx -test -wayland -wifi" CPU_FLAGS_X86="-avx2" Thanks for the tip. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Top posting since reply was also. Could be device related. I dunno. aisha wrote: > Firefox currently has some issues with addons and local storage. > Do you have the use `clang` flag enabled? > This compiles firefox using clang-llvm and fixes a lot of the problems. > > --- > Aisha > www.aisha.cc > > On 2020-01-24 22:52, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have >> noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is >> times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find >> anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't >> pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some >> scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either >> allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block >> tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow >> others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, >> to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type >> and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that >> allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. >> >> I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them >> seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only >> had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever >> seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that >> works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be >> selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. >> >> Thanks much to all. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and script block tool/addon
Firefox currently has some issues with addons and local storage. Do you have the use `clang` flag enabled? This compiles firefox using clang-llvm and fixes a lot of the problems. --- Aisha www.aisha.cc On 2020-01-24 22:52, Dale wrote: Howdy, I use Firefox and have a issue with scripts on some sites. I have noscript installed and for the most part, it works. That said, there is times when it doesn't do what I need. It seems, from what I can find anyway, that you can either allow scripts or not allow scripts but can't pick and choose. For example. Let's say I'm on abc.com and I need some scripts to run but want to block other scripts. With noscript, I either allow all from a site or none. What I'd like to find is a script block tool that will list all the scripts and allow me to block some but allow others. Believe it or not, I use to use adblock, a much older version, to do this. I'd tell adblock to list all the objects, sort them by type and then go through the scripts until I find the magic settings that allows the site to work but not run scripts I don't want. I've installed and tried quite a few script block tools but none of them seem to do what I want to do. I've even tried a few addons that only had a very few users, just hoping it would do this. Has anyone ever seen a script block tool, or some other tool with a different name, that works this way? I need a addon that allows me to refine and be selective on what scripts run and which ones are blocked. Thanks much to all. Dale :-) :-)
