Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/14, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:58:03AM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked: Holy shit, what's going on? The ebuild in the portage tree is different than the one in /var/db/pkg/. Is it normal to update an ebuild but not its revision number?

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:17:03 +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: It seems that ebuilds do change quite frequently without a revision bump. Does anyone know what the policy is on changing ebuilds like that? http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/ebuild-revisions/index.html Ebuilds should have

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-14 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/14, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:17:03 +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: It seems that ebuilds do change quite frequently without a revision bump. Does anyone know what the policy is on changing ebuilds like that?

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: Hi 'emerge -pv --depclean' shows that these packages may be unmerged: snip detail app-crypt/hashalot sys-libs/pwdb sys-apps/attr Is it safe to remove they from the system? This is mail server and has mostly no additional packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, you already are aware of it. So, if I use reiserfs w/o ext attrs (option in kernel), I don't need it

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: Thanks, Alan! Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:00:51 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:25:23PM +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: # cat /etc/make.conf | grep USE USE=-X -acl -gpm -ipv6 -tcpd # equery depends attr [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] sys-apps/coreutils-6.9-r1 (xattr? sys-apps/attr) # equery depends pwdb [ Searching for

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:03:42PM +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the pam_pwdb module, and if you do, warns you about it. I for my part just removed pwdb, and I can

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:53:29PM +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: Not so fast. Check to see if you do have the xattr flag enabled. In the kernel config probably? No, I mean the USE variable. The entry for attr is a conditional dependency: you don't need it if you don't have the xattr

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Henry Gebhardt
# equery depends pwdb [ Searching for packages depending on pwdb... ] sys-libs/pam-0.99.9.0 (sys-libs/pwdb) Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the pam_pwdb module, and if you do, warns you about

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, you wrote: Hi Mick, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 9:14:31 PM, you wrote: # equery depends attr [ Searching for packages depending on attr... ] sys-apps/acl-2.2.45 (=sys-apps/attr-2.4)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: Thanks, Alan! Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:00:51 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Henry Gebhardt
2008/2/13, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:03:42PM +0100, Henry Gebhardt wrote: Where does equery get that from? emerge -e pam doesn't show pwdb as a dependency. In fact, the ebuild checks whether you are using the pam_pwdb module, and if you do, warns you about

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Marshall
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:34:21 +0200 Sergey Kobzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, thanks again :) Last question. How can I update selected packages correctly? Before I used 'emerge -uDN package_name' command, but it adds package to the world class, which is IMHO is not fully correct. Use

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: attr provides extended attributes to ext2/3 and XFS file systems, used by selinux and posix capabilities. If you use these features, you already are aware of it. So, if I use reiserfs w/o ext attrs (option in

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:58:03AM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked: So, yes, pwdb is a runtime dependency. I don't actually run pam, so can't confirm what would happen if I remove pwdb. Holy shit, what's going on? The ebuild in the portage tree is different than the one in

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it sefe to unmerge?

2008-02-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:17:35AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: emerge -n pwdb Actually, don't do that. Alan gave the right answer, but it seems that my portage tree was just a few days out of date. flameeyes just removed the dependency for pwdb from pam. (See my other reply for