Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Gabriel Dain wrote: If the problem is you log straight into KDE, you could boot from the Gentoo CD, and chroot to your system Gabriel Dain or get another virtual terminal (with x running, it's shift-alt f2, or shift-control f2, i forget which). that will give you a login prompt and you can log in directly as root.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Friday 24 March 2006 07:13, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)': On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Gabriel Dain wrote: If the problem is you log straight into KDE, you could boot from the Gentoo CD, and chroot to your system or get another virtual terminal (with x running, it's shift-alt f2, or shift-control f2, i forget which). I believe you mean Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] (more or less, depending on your settings.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 07:13, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)': On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Gabriel Dain wrote: If the problem is you log straight into KDE, you could boot from the Gentoo CD, and chroot to your system or get another virtual terminal (with x running, it's shift-alt f2, or shift-control f2, i forget which). I believe you mean Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] (more or less, depending on your settings.) yes, i can never remember...i just hold 'em all down :). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:58:10 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Also i recommend sudo, but thats another whole story... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. ?!? where's the problem? logins as root at the tty -- adds user to wheel -- startx -- everyone is happy. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
so that means log into root before you run X. # vi groups (or whatever the correct way of doing it is) add your user to wheel you're done Cheers Antoine On 23/03/06, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This is where I should put some witty comment. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Thats true... However: I can login as root at the text console. useradd -G wheel *name* *password* Gabriel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 17:08, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)': On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. While KDE may do some autodetection re: this, my Root Shell (uncustomized) from Konsole runs 'su -'; which will be a problem if you want to use sudo instead. (Or can't su for some reason.) If you do, you can edit the existing session or create a new session to run 'sudo -s'. I use this nice feature to have a session that runs su - -c 'screen -x -R -s /bin/bash' (and a similar one for non-root). I don't know show well (if at all) screen runs under sudo, but the equivalent should be something along the lines of 'sudo screen -x -R -s /bin/bash' Hrm, after writing this I realize I'm not in the sudo thread anymore. *shrug* Maybe this is useful information to someone. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:08:36 + b.n. wrote: I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. ?!? where's the problem? logins as root at the tty -- adds user to wheel -- startx -- everyone is happy. Oh I agree, I only meant that trying to do it from within a user login (including X) created the chicken/egg problem. Also of course you have to remember that you need to log in afresh after being added to a new group! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. dosn't su just have its own /etc/pam.d/su file that has pam_rootok.so in it so root can just su without a passwd and it also has a module that checks if they are in the wheel group. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:52:58 +0100 Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so that means log into root before you run X. # vi groups (or whatever the correct way of doing it is) vigr is the right editor for the group file and vipw for passwd. The -s switch makes them edit the shadow file. As the man page says the programs will set the appropriate locks to prevent file corruption. add your user to wheel The method I've seen referred to on Gento is gpasswd -a user group which adds the user to the named group. -- Ian. EOM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
Antoine writes: # vi groups (or whatever the correct way of doing it is) add your user to wheel I think it is gpasswd -a user wheel. Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
If the problem is you log straight into KDE, you could boot from the Gentoo CD, and chroot to your system Gabriel Dain -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
