Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
schreef:
I think I figured it out. Here is my output:
bash-2.05b$ firefox
\No running windows found
/home/omega21/.gtk_qt_engine_rc:62: error: unexpected
character `{', expected character `}'
/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 547: 16841
Segmentation fault $mozbin $@
firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
I now realize that Gaim, Firefox Thunderbird are all
GTK, and Im using qt-gtk-engine. That must be the
issue.
Can I get these things to work though with QT-GTK,
because GTK without a theme -- well, no one deserves
to see it. :)
Ian
GTK without a theme? GTK-QT *isn't* a theme. It's an engine that
(supposedly) allows GTK (1 and 2) applications to use a KDE theme when
running KDE, so that your GTK and QT applications look the same.
Now, this works fine for me with Thunderbird, Firefox doesn't seem to
accept most theme variables, even under GNOME (it won't pick up desktop
colors, for example), and if Gaim is GTK 1, well... GTK-QT in my
experience works much better with GTK 2 applications rather than GTK 1.
First of all, have you set GTK applications to use the KDE color scheme
in the KDE Configuration Center (Appearance and Themes=Colors=use my
KDE color scheme in non KDE applications).
Second of all, if you installed the GTK-QT engine via Portage, you
should also have a GTK Themes and Styles entry in the Configuration
menu or in the main menu somewhere (look in Utilities, or Extra). Make
sure that the settings are correct.
But the main problem that I found is that GTK 1 programs especially do
not support all KDE themes. I was using Liquid and no GTK 1 application
wanted to recognize it (though I finally got them to use the right color
scheme). What I finally did was go to kde-look org and find a GTK theme
that I could live with and that was replicated successfully for GTK, GTK
2, and KDE (there are several such themes on the site in the GTK+ 1
section, but many of the ones I tried didn't work properly), and use
that instead.
The theme I chose was QTCurve, and once installed (had to compile it
manually, but that was a simple and standard compile and the
instructions were perfectly adequate to the task), I then set GTK 1 apps
to use it via switch --not switch 2; I specifically installed the 1.0
version in a new slot to have access to GTK 1 theme controls. switch
by the way, is the binary name for the package installed by emerge
gtk-theme-switch. I then set GTK 2 apps to use it via the GNOME Control
Panel (if available), switch2 (the binary installed by the 2.0 versions
of gtk-theme-switch), or gtk-chtheme, another GTK (2) theme-setting
utility for those without GNOME. KDE was just set to use the theme
normally via the Configuration Center.
And now all my apps, be they KDE, GTK 1 or GTK 2, look alike to the best
of their ability (since Firefox does not pick up desktop theme colors
using most firefox themes, although istr that there are a couple of ff
themes that do use desktop color schemes. I'm just apparently not using
one).
So my advice to you would be threefold:
1) try installing (gtk) theme engines via Portage, or even manually from
art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org. It's possible that you don't have the
backend for the theme you're trying to use. Be warned ,though-- many of
the gtk-engine packages will install if you have GNOME 2.x installed,
but then if you try to upgrade GNOME (from 2.8.x to 2.10, for example),
the gnome-themes(-extras) package will be blocked by them. However, the
gnome-themes packages don't seem to actually include many of the GTK
engines, though they (obviously) claim to, which is a problem since many
GTK themes are based on some of these engines, like smooth.
2) try a different KDE theme via GTK-QT. I had a lot of problems with
Liquid, but Plastic is much simpler and might work fine.
3) give up on GTK-QT and just use replicated themes. Geramik is in
Portage, replicating Keramik (and Thin Keramik) controls. On
kde-look.org you can find Plastiq (replicating Plastic controls),
QTCurve (modified Bluecurve controls), two versions of Liquid (which
unfortunately don't seem to respect color schemes, but maybe I didn't
follow instructions), and of course, lots of Aqua, among others.
And you naturally have the option to hack a cross-environment theme
yourself, or just forget about this standardized look business and just
use different themes for GTK and KDE apps. It's not so bad as long as
you have the color scheme set to be used across the board.
Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
Ian K schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: 2) try a different KDE theme via GTK-QT. I had a lot of problems with Liquid, but Plastic is much simpler and might work fine. This is what worked. I am now using krisp, as opposed to Metal4kde. Glad to hear it. Krisp is pretty nice (I liked it too). Hope this helps, It did. Thank you for your time. You're quite welcome. Glad you got it sorted. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
--- ««Omega21»» [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. Right now, Im typing this in webmail because none of my Mozilla products are working right. And now that I think of it, Gaim is doing the same thing. What happens is: I start the program (firefox // thunderbird // gaim) After what seems to be a random time, it suddenly closes. Hi Omega21, Do you remember what you did just before this problem started? Run one of those apps from a terminal so you can see if there are any clues in stderr. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
--- Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ««Omega21»» [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. Right now, Im typing this in webmail because none of my Mozilla products are working right. And now that I think of it, Gaim is doing the same thing. What happens is: I start the program (firefox // thunderbird // gaim) After what seems to be a random time, it suddenly closes. Hi Omega21, Do you remember what you did just before this problem started? Run one of those apps from a terminal so you can see if there are any clues in stderr. Zac I forgot to mention that if there are no clues on stderr then you can try a debugging tool such as strace: strace -f -F -o ~/firefox-strace.txt firefox The ouput file may have a clue. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
--- Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- ««Omega21»» [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there.
Right now, Im typing this in webmail because
none of my Mozilla products are working right.
And now that I think of it, Gaim is doing the
same
thing.
What happens is:
I start the program (firefox // thunderbird //
gaim)
After what seems to be a random time, it
suddenly
closes.
Hi Omega21,
Do you remember what you did just before this
problem
started? Run one of those apps from a terminal so
you
can see if there are any clues in stderr.
Zac
I forgot to mention that if there are no clues on
stderr then you can try a debugging tool such as
strace:
strace -f -F -o ~/firefox-strace.txt firefox
The ouput file may have a clue.
Zac
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I think I figured it out. Here is my output:
bash-2.05b$ firefox
\No running windows found
/home/omega21/.gtk_qt_engine_rc:62: error: unexpected
character `{', expected character `}'
/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 547: 16841
Segmentation fault $mozbin $@
firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
I now realize that Gaim, Firefox Thunderbird are all
GTK, and Im using qt-gtk-engine. That must be the
issue.
Can I get these things to work though with QT-GTK,
because GTK without a theme -- well, no one deserves
to see it. :)
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash
--- ««Omega21»» [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I figured it out. Here is my output:
bash-2.05b$ firefox
\No running windows found
/home/omega21/.gtk_qt_engine_rc:62: error:
unexpected
character `{', expected character `}'
/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 547: 16841
Segmentation fault $mozbin $@
firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
I now realize that Gaim, Firefox Thunderbird are
all
GTK, and Im using qt-gtk-engine. That must be the
issue.
Can I get these things to work though with QT-GTK,
because GTK without a theme -- well, no one deserves
to see it. :)
Ian
Looks like something is wrong with
~/.gtk_qt_engine_rc.If you can't fix it you could
delete it and start from scratch ;-) I've used
gtk-qt-engine in the past with no problems.
For KDE users, Mozillux has some really nice themes
for firefox and thunderbird:
http://www.polinux.upv.es/mozilla/temas.php?idioma=en
Zac
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