Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Baptiste Mestelan

More precisely, I meant :
http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet
http://www.exaile.org/

Also, Wikipedia is astonishingly knowledgeable about audio players, these days :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_media_players#Audio_players.07UNIQ4f732286383f389d-nowiki-0199-QINU1.07UNIQ4f732286383f389d-nowiki-019A-QINU

Hope this helps.


On 6/6/07, Jean-Baptiste Mestelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not sure if you will like these, but did you try :
- quodlibet,
- exaile ?

Cheers !

On 6/4/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
 the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
 Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
 fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
 am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
 audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
 start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
 command-line player.

 Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007, Denis wrote:
  Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed.  I don't recommend it for a
  drop-in XMMS replacement.  If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and
  organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and
  seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you.

 Ha...  yea, my use flags have -gnome and -kde in them, and I run a
 very simple fluxbox environment...  I just want the music player to
 have a decent graphical interface, but just the essential features,
 without bloat.

 It seems like I got the Audacious to work...  But I still miss the XMMS ;-)

alsaplayer?

it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same time. Play 
forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a 
playlist.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread vladimir

try media-sound/moc - Music On Console - ncurses interface for
playing audio files
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Denis

On 6/5/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

alsaplayer?

it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same time. Play
forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a
playlist.


I did want to try the alsaplayer, but when I try to emerge it, portage
says it's masked:

[code]
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy alsaplayer have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.77-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
[/code]
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Weller
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:05:41 +0300
Stratos Psomadakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 O/H Denis έγραψε:
  What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really
  liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off
  portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it
  seems more fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but
  on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without
  errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not
  functional, playlist errors on start-up... )  I'm looking for
  something with a GUI rather than a command-line player.
 
  Thanks.
 i can think only of amarok,but it's very 'heavy'...
 maybe you could find a nice gui client for mpd...
 
How about using gmpc as a GTK+ frontend to mpd?
http://www.musicpd.org/gmpc.shtml

Never tried myself, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H Denis έγραψε:
 On 6/5/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 alsaplayer?

 it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same
 time. Play
 forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a
 playlist.

 I did want to try the alsaplayer, but when I try to emerge it, portage
 says it's masked:

 [code]
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy alsaplayer have been masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
 request:
 - media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.77-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
 [/code]
open up a terminal,become root and write:
#echo media-sound/alsaplayer  ~x86/etc/portage/package.keywords
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Edgar Contreras

I just downloaded myself and compiled it I couldn't find a replacement 

On 6/4/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Henk Boom

On 04/06/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.


I had a similar issue, though the reason I had for not liking
audacious had more to do with it's atrocious memory usage. I
eventually settled on MPD (music player daemon) coupled with Sonata.
MPD requires a small amount of setup, but it's really nice and light.
Sonata is a simple GTK client which seems pretty quick and light, but
AFAIK doesn't do a couple of things which I don't really need (like EQ
controls).

Plus you can control MPD from a command line or script in a pinch
using netcat, without even having the UI open. =)

   Henk Boom
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Mestelan

Not sure if you will like these, but did you try :
- quodlibet,
- exaile ?

Cheers !

On 6/4/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H Denis έγραψε:
 What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
 the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
 Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
 fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
 am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
 audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
 start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
 command-line player.

 Thanks.
i can think only of amarok,but it's very 'heavy'...
maybe you could find a nice gui client for mpd...

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Ken
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Denis wrote:
 What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
 the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
 Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
 fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
 am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
 audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
 start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
 command-line player.
 
 Thanks.
I gotta give a recommendation for Amarok. It is a kde package so it
might not be what you had in mind, but it is a great music player.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Denis

I'll have a look at Amarok.  Was XMMS removed for licensing issues?
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
+++ Denis [gentoo-user] [Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 05:26:09PM -0400]:
 I'll have a look at Amarok.  Was XMMS removed for licensing issues?
XMMS was removed due to it being no longer maintained I believe.

I was also a huge XMMS fan and switched to Audacious.  But it's so slow and
buggy that I've converted to Amarok. 

Amarok is *not* an XMMS replacement though and fanbois suggesting it to
ex-xmms users should note that (it's like suggesting a hummer to somebody
looking for a compact).

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Denis:
 I'll have a look at Amarok.  Was XMMS removed for licensing issues?

No. It's because the code is old and unmaintained. If I had the skill I would 
pick it up myself, but sadly I don't know what the heck I'm doing with it...I 
am very surprised that someone has not done this as there seems to be a lot 
of take xmms out of my cold dead hands sort of folks out there.

I am in the same boat as you, I tried audacious as a replacement but it just 
wasn't working for me. I have many playlists with 1000+ songs on them, and 
audacious seems to choke on them. When it doesn't outright crash the 
interface freezes when I scroll the playlist and it reads the id3 tags. Makes 
it all but unusable for me. 

Amarok isn't my cup of tea either. I wrote my own scripts to organize my 
music, and create playlists, and amarok seems to want to organize my tunes 
for me. Ugh. To be fair I have not delved too deeply into all the options. 
Perhaps there is a way to turn it into an xmms/audacious clone. 

Perhaps xmms2 (which moves to a client/server approach) may have a similar 
lightweight client to the old xmms. Running a server to simply play tunes 
does seem like overkill to me though... 

I'll likely get shouted down for this, but when they removed xmms from the 
tree I simply deleted xmms and related packages from my world file without 
actually uninstalling them. You can get away with this with emerge, but not 
paludis.

So: I still use xmms, but it will be a version frozen in time for all 
eternity. Sigh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:00:51 -0400
Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Denis wrote:
  What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really
  liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off
  portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it
  seems more fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but
  on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without
  errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not
  functional, playlist errors on start-up... )  I'm looking for
  something with a GUI rather than a command-line player.
  
  Thanks.
 I gotta give a recommendation for Amarok. It is a kde package so it
 might not be what you had in mind, but it is a great music player.

Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed.  I don't recommend it for a
drop-in XMMS replacement.  If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and
organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and
seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you.  

But if you like xmms, maybe before you try to find more alternatives
you'll consider trying to compile and install it from downloaded
sources, manually.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Ken
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Dan Farrell wrote:
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 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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 Denis wrote:
 What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really
 liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off
 portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it
 seems more fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but
 on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without
 errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not
 functional, playlist errors on start-up... )  I'm looking for
 something with a GUI rather than a command-line player.

 Thanks.
 I gotta give a recommendation for Amarok. It is a kde package so it
 might not be what you had in mind, but it is a great music player.
 
 Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed.  I don't recommend it for a
 drop-in XMMS replacement.  If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and
 organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and
 seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you.  
 
 But if you like xmms, maybe before you try to find more alternatives
 you'll consider trying to compile and install it from downloaded
 sources, manually.  

What about XMMS2? It's not in portage but I thought it was designed to
fix all the flaws of the original XMMS. I have not tried it so I can't
say for sure if its even remotely the same as the old XMMS.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Denis

Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed.  I don't recommend it for a
drop-in XMMS replacement.  If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and
organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and
seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you.


Ha...  yea, my use flags have -gnome and -kde in them, and I run a
very simple fluxbox environment...  I just want the music player to
have a decent graphical interface, but just the essential features,
without bloat.

It seems like I got the Audacious to work...  But I still miss the XMMS ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 04 June 2007 23:40:44 darren kirby wrote:
  Was XMMS removed for licensing issues?

 No. It's because the code is old and unmaintained. If I had the skill I
 would pick it up myself, but sadly I don't know what the heck I'm doing
 with it...

I'd rather say it's unmaintainable. People have tried and failed. It was kept 
in the tree for years literally after it became unmaintainable because people 
were trying. And the bugs have piled up during that period..

 I am very surprised that someone has not done this as there seems 
 to be a lot of take xmms out of my cold dead hands sort of folks out
 there.

What surprises me is that no-one has put it in a dedicated overlay and 
announced it for use with layman (the zugaina overlay does have it but I 
think it contains so much other crap too that I cannot recommend using that).

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-04 Thread Jed R. Mallen

On 6/5/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.

Thanks.


* media-sound/bmpx
Available versions:  ~0.36.1
Homepage:http://www.beep-media-player.org
Description: Next generation Beep Media Player

Although I prefer mplayer console on most of my multimedia needs, I've
been using bmp on my old Debian box and it works okay with a nice
xmms-like feel to it.

I use mplayer on the console on Gentoo.

I think bmpx [http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage]
looks different from its predecessor though. Haven't tried it yet.

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