Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 09:42 +0200, Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install lm_sensors using gentoo-wiki, but I came accros some dependency problem: # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0 [ebuild N] x11-misc/read-edid-1.4.2 [ebuild N] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 USE=-sensord What is that x11-misc/read-edid good for? I do not want to pull the whole x11 stuff with it, as this is a server with no graphics. http://bugs.gentoo.org/181029 Next, I want to use sensord for monitoring, so I modified package.use and tried it once more: # echo sys-apps/lm_sensors sensord /etc/portage/package.use # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6[svg]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1 (Change USE: +svg) (dependency required by net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.3.8 [ebuild]) (dependency required by sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 [ebuild]) (dependency required by lm_sensors [argument]) Now I do not understand it at all. Why rrdtool? All I want to use sensord for is to have some status messages recorded to syslog. Why should I install that x11-libs/cairo graphics library and rrdtool stuff??? Likely sensord does a lot more than recording to syslog. rrdtools is used as a database but also used to build graphs from its database, which probably explains cairo. Cairo is a graphics library that can render to multiple devices including X11. If you want you can submit a patched ebuild for rrdtool that maybe uses a cairo USE flag and clearly separates the graphics system from the database system. You'll probably need to work closely with upstream for that. If you want you can submit a patched ebuild for cairo that maybe uses an X use flag that clearly separates the X11 rendering backend from the others. You'll probably need to work closely with upstream for that. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 09:42 +0200, Jarry wrote: # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0 [ebuild N] x11-misc/read-edid-1.4.2 [ebuild N] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 USE=-sensord What is that x11-misc/read-edid good for? I do not want to pull the whole x11 stuff with it, as this is a server with no graphics. http://bugs.gentoo.org/181029 ChangeLog: 03 Jun 2007; Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org lm_sensors-2.10.3.ebuild: Add missing depend. decode-edid.pl needs parse-edid from x11-misc/read-edid I agree with the original poster of this resolved bug: pulling in x11-stuff to server just to be able to monitor its temperatures is simply dangerous and risky... Next, I want to use sensord for monitoring, so I modified package.use and tried it once more: # echo sys-apps/lm_sensors sensord /etc/portage/package.use # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6[svg]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1 (Change USE: +svg) (dependency required by net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.3.8 [ebuild]) (dependency required by sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 [ebuild]) (dependency required by lm_sensors [argument]) Now I do not understand it at all. Why rrdtool? All I want to use sensord for is to have some status messages recorded to syslog. Why should I install that x11-libs/cairo graphics library and rrdtool stuff??? Likely sensord does a lot more than recording to syslog. man sensord: DESCRIPTION Sensord is a daemon that can be used to periodically log sensor readings from hardware health-monitoring chips to syslog(3) ***OR*** a round-robin database (RRD) and to alert when a sensor alarm is signalled; for example, if a fan fails, a temperature limit is exceeded, etc. You see that big fat ***OR*** there? syslog or RRD. And I think even gentoo-user should have the right to choose what he wants to do with those sensor-readings. Definitelly I'm against any x11-libs on my server, be it x11-misc/read-edid or x11-libs/cairo. BTW, sensord can write data to round-robin database even if no rrd-tool is installed. There's no need to put net-analyzer/rrdtool as a dependency... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:45 +0200, Jarry wrote: [...] man sensord: DESCRIPTION Sensord is a daemon that can be used to periodically log sensor readings from hardware health-monitoring chips to syslog(3) ***OR*** a round-robin database (RRD) and to alert when a sensor alarm is signalled; for example, if a fan fails, a temperature limit is exceeded, etc. You see that big fat ***OR*** there? syslog or RRD. And I think even gentoo-user should have the right to choose what he wants to do with those sensor-readings. Definitelly I'm against any x11-libs on my server, be it x11-misc/read-edid or x11-libs/cairo. BTW, sensord can write data to round-robin database even if no rrd-tool is installed. There's no need to put net-analyzer/rrdtool as a dependency... So if you believe there is a bug with the ebuild, you can submit a bug report to bugs.gentoo.org. As always, patches are welcomed. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
On 23 Aug 2009, at 14:02, Albert Hopkins wrote: ... So if you believe there is a bug with the ebuild, you can submit a bug report to bugs.gentoo.org. As always, patches are welcomed. I assume that the RDEPEND was added because decode-edid.pl was supplied by upstream (at least this is how I choose the interpret TFC). Therefore it is better to address with a bug or patch upstream, not on b.g.o Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 15:05 +0100, Stroller wrote: On 23 Aug 2009, at 14:02, Albert Hopkins wrote: ... So if you believe there is a bug with the ebuild, you can submit a bug report to bugs.gentoo.org. As always, patches are welcomed. I assume that the RDEPEND was added because decode-edid.pl was supplied by upstream (at least this is how I choose the interpret TFC). Therefore it is better to address with a bug or patch upstream, not on b.g.o Yeah I originally suggested working with upstream. Gentoo would also be involved if it were to be an optional (i.e. USE-flag kind of thing). -a
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors: dependency problem...
On 8/23/2009 8:45 AM, Jarry wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 09:42 +0200, Jarry wrote: # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0 [ebuild N ] x11-misc/read-edid-1.4.2 [ebuild N ] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 USE=-sensord What is that x11-misc/read-edid good for? I do not want to pull the whole x11 stuff with it, as this is a server with no graphics. I agree with the original poster of this resolved bug: pulling in x11-stuff to server just to be able to monitor its temperatures is simply dangerous and risky... read-edid is only tangentially related to X. It doesn't use any X libraries, or even require X to be installed to run. It perhaps shouldn't even be in the x11-misc category, but that's entirely cosmetic. Also, I noted that lm_sensors-3.0 doesn't have this dependency anymore, so it looks like it was handled upstream. Next, I want to use sensord for monitoring, so I modified package.use and tried it once more: # echo sys-apps/lm_sensors sensord /etc/portage/package.use # emerge --pretend lm_sensors These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6[svg]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/cairo-1.8.6-r1 (Change USE: +svg) (dependency required by net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.3.8 [ebuild]) (dependency required by sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.7 [ebuild]) (dependency required by lm_sensors [argument]) Now I do not understand it at all. Why rrdtool? All I want to use sensord for is to have some status messages recorded to syslog. Why should I install that x11-libs/cairo graphics library and rrdtool stuff??? Likely sensord does a lot more than recording to syslog. man sensord: DESCRIPTION Sensord is a daemon that can be used to periodically log sensor readings from hardware health-monitoring chips to syslog(3) ***OR*** a round-robin database (RRD) and to alert when a sensor alarm is signalled; for example, if a fan fails, a temperature limit is exceeded, etc. You see that big fat ***OR*** there? syslog or RRD. And I think even gentoo-user should have the right to choose what he wants to do with those sensor-readings. Definitelly I'm against any x11-libs on my server, be it x11-misc/read-edid or x11-libs/cairo. BTW, sensord can write data to round-robin database even if no rrd-tool is installed. There's no need to put net-analyzer/rrdtool as a dependency... Tell that to the upstream: make: *** No rule to make target `rrd.h', needed by `prog/sensord/rrd.rd'. Stop. --Mike
