Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Hmm, so happens before I could emerge ssh2 had to emerge -C openssh I think you'll find that most people use the programs from openssh. I would suggest removing net-misc/ssh (again, assuming this is what you mean by ssh2, since there is no ssh2 ebuild in the tree) and re-merging openssh. Done. But what's this bit at the end of the console o/p: snip /usr/share/openssh/Ssh.bin * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and then * restart sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd restart'. * * As of version 3.4 the default is to enable the UsePrivelegeSeparation * functionality, but please ensure that you do not explicitly disable * this in your configuration as disabling it opens security holes * * This revision has removed your sshd user id and replaced it with a * new one with UID 22. If you have any scripts or programs that * that referenced the old UID directly, you will need to update them. * * Please be aware users need a valid shell in /etc/passwd * in order to be allowed to login. * snip And what's this all got to do with ftp? All I ever wanted to do was ftp files from one PC to another. I've done it before. Very simple. I'd enter ftp 192.168.0.2(the address of the other box) at the prompt on one box and find myself sitting at the door to the home dir of the other box. Then I could use the send command to pass over a file. IIRC there was never any need for openssh or any kind of ssh. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Answers are out of order...as they will make more sense that way... On 4/6/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what's this all got to do with ftp? Nothing at all. But you were not running an ftp _server_ on the machine you were trying to connect to. I think it has already been answered that the 'ftp' command is a client, and needs a server to connect to. So on the other machine, you need a server. There are several in portage: net-ftp/ftpd, net-ftp/proftpd are probaby the most popular, and thus if you have problems or questions the most likely that people will be able to help you with. If the default configuration of the ftp server doesn't work for your needs however, you will need to reconfigure it. This is no more difficult than other servers, but will require reading some documentation, howto's, etc. However ssh is quite a bit easier, because the default configuration is quite usable for most tasks. You still need a server on the other machine (the commands 'ssh' and 'scp' are clients), but that just means merging openssh there as well, and running '/etc/init.d/sshd start'. But what's this bit at the end of the console o/p: snip /usr/share/openssh/Ssh.bin * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and then * restart sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd restart'. This will be necessary on the server machine to restart the ssh server in the case where it already exists. * As of version 3.4 the default is to enable the UsePrivelegeSeparation You can ignore the rest of this output if you use the default configuration files. Actually, since you don't care about security here at all, you can ignore it completely. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler wrote: For Mick's benefit I used a variation of this command What I don't get is, is why you ask for help when you obviously do not want to get any help. Why don't you just start over after having read ESRs essay about asking questions the smart way? Because, right now you are smart - smart like in smart ass. If the shoe fits wear it or you find you have a scar you must grin and bear it; we are alone with what we are. Except perhaps, for Mr Skwar. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason scp concatenates the source with the destination into one non-existing path. Then why on earth don't you quote actually _useful_ data for us to help you, i.e. the command you issued when you get that error? from the archive: snip Did the OP try something like: === scp -p -v -c blowfish /local_box_path_to_file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/hda5/ Tried ever which way; here's what I get: snip Maybe English isn't your for-tay. Tried ever which way means I used the command given by my correspondent in many different permutations. May it even be possible that you don't use openssh's scp (I didn't Hmm, so happens before I could emerge ssh2 had to emerge -C openssh manage to reproduce such debug output you've cited)? You've neither specified your client and server software... Trying if ssh2 is not the software you refer to, what is it? to help you under these circumstances is rather pointless. not unless the point is to appear a pompous blowhard. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 April 2006 16:58, maxim wexler wrote: what command did you issue? open sesame Well that's your problem then, there is no open command. ftp *does* have an open command How about you just stop being obtuse tell us what command(s) you ran, exactly as you ran them, not an amazingly high debug output, and perhaps we'll be able to help. The word is terse. If anything I have been too terse. It's a bad habit of mine. I eschew, abhor and execrate obtuseness and all it's works! Oh, and what's debug output for anyways? here's the link to the entire thread: http://groups.google.ca/group/linux.gentoo.user/browse_thread/thread/9940b20f98fae53c/58c5b53e393eeaaa?lnk=stq=ssh2+and+xover+LANrnum=1#58c5b53e393eeaaa I've just checked it over. The last entry from Mick never reached my box. For Mick's benefit I used a variation of this command scp -p -v -c blowfish /local_box_path_to_file to get that odd output. But then I said that already. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: to help you under these circumstances is rather pointless. not unless the point is to appear a pompous blowhard. ~The only way someone is going to be able to help you is if they understand the problem.Otherwise they will only be guessing, which will waste their time and yours. In order to understand the problem, they need to know exactly what you did, and exactly the responses you got. I tried everything and it did not work provides no useful information. Try the commands suggested, then cut and paste the command and its output. Telling us you ran the command is not enough, you may have typed it incorrectly. for example, ls -l and ls -1 are both valid but different commands, but they look the same in some fonts, so don't retype, paste. Insulting people is a good way to make sure they don't help you, but so is saying nothing. So if you want no help, I suggest the latter course of action, it is less trouble for everyone. If you really do want people to help you, give them the facts they need to do so in an informed way. -- Neil Bothwick God created the world in six days. On the seventh day he also decided to create England... just to try out his Practical Joke Weather Machine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On 4/5/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why on earth don't you quote actually _useful_ data for us to help you, i.e. the command you issued when you get that error? from the archive: snip Did the OP try something like: === scp -p -v -c blowfish /local_box_path_to_file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/hda5/ Tried ever which way; here's what I get: snip Maybe English isn't your for-tay. Tried ever which way means I used the command given by my correspondent in many different permutations. Maxim, I think your english parser is broken. Hwh, like everyone else trying to help you, asked you to post the actual command you ran that produced the output you posted. That sure as hell isn't the quoted command, because 192.168.0.3 and local_box_path_to_file doesn't appear in the output. From your output, I can only guess that you ran something like: scp lp-test /home/heathen/[EMAIL PROTECTED] When what you probably really wanted was: scp lp-test [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May it even be possible that you don't use openssh's scp (I didn't Hmm, so happens before I could emerge ssh2 had to emerge -C openssh I think you'll find that most people use the programs from openssh. I would suggest removing net-misc/ssh (again, assuming this is what you mean by ssh2, since there is no ssh2 ebuild in the tree) and re-merging openssh. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On 4/5/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Mick's benefit I used a variation of this command variation != *exact* Most likely you have an error on your command line. Prove us wrong. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On 03/04/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] ``/home/heathen/[EMAIL PROTECTED]''. scp:Scp2/scp2.c:618/transfer_ready_cb: Received error SSH_FC_OK, error message . For some reason scp concatenates the source with the destination into one non-existing path. This looks odd indeed. What command line *exactly* returns the above error? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
maxim wexler wrote: --- Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? xover==crossover. Yes. So? What do you mean by crossover? quoteftp didn't work either/unquote Aha. Why not? What error messages did you get? What's in the logs? Alexander Skwar -- Q: How do you save a drowning lawyer? A: Throw him a rock. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xover==crossover. quoteftp didn't work either/unquote ohhh for gods sake what command did you issue? what result did you get? scp myfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ generally transfers myfile into the home directory of otheruser on the machine another.computer.name. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: He said it could ping... I dunno... seems he just needs to figure out how he wants to transfer files. Did the OP try something like: === scp -p -v -c blowfish /local_box_path_to_file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/hda5/ Tried ever which way; here's what I get: scp:SshFileCopy/sshfilecopy.c:616/connect_done_cb: Connection to local, ready to serve requests. scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:219/transfer_get_newline_conventions: Fething source newline convention extension data. scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:234/transfer_get_newline_conventions: Fething dest newline convention extension data. scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:355/transfer_prepare_base_dir: file name: ``/home/heathen'' scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:411/transfer_prepare_base_dir: basedir = /home/heathen scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:673/transfer_stat_dest: Statting destination file ``/home/heathen/[EMAIL PROTECTED]''... scp:SshFCTransferCore/sshfc_trcore.c:428/transfer_start_finalize: Starting transfer for file lp-test, destination /home/heathen/[EMAIL PROTECTED] lp-test | 3.3kB | 3.3kB/s | TOC: 00:00:01 | 100%scp:SshFCTransferCore/sshfc_trcore.c:938/transfer_write_out: Writer finished. scp:SshFCTransfer/sshfc_transfer.c:1394/transfer_close_dest: Finished with file ``/home/heathen/[EMAIL PROTECTED]''. scp:Scp2/scp2.c:618/transfer_ready_cb: Received error SSH_FC_OK, error message . For some reason scp concatenates the source with the destination into one non-existing path. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xover==crossover. quoteftp didn't work either/unquote ohhh for gods sake Come down off your cloud, Jupiter! what command did you issue? open sesame what result did you get? We regret to inform you that Ali Baba refuses to speak with you at this time. scp myfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ Thanks, I'll give it a whirl but see my reply to Mick. generally transfers myfile into the home directory of otheruser on the machine another.computer.name. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Hi, On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason scp concatenates the source with the destination into one non-existing path. Then why on earth don't you quote actually _useful_ data for us to help you, i.e. the command you issued when you get that error? May it even be possible that you don't use openssh's scp (I didn't manage to reproduce such debug output you've cited)? You've neither specified your client and server software... Trying to help you under these circumstances is rather pointless. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
On Monday 03 April 2006 16:58, maxim wexler wrote: what command did you issue? open sesame Well that's your problem then, there is no open command. How about you just stop being obtuse tell us what command(s) you ran, exactly as you ran them, not an amazingly high debug output, and perhaps we'll be able to help. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler wrote: --- Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? xover==crossover. Yes. So? What do you mean by crossover? two PCs, one CAT5 cable w/ tx/rx lines swapped quoteftp didn't work either/unquote Aha. Why not? What error messages did you get? What's in the logs? Basically, connection refused. As far as the logs went, there were none! There was a bunch of files that were supposed to be installed under /etc, according to the man page, which didn't appear. But emerge went smoothly. Except I was puzzled that I had to emerge ftpd seperately. Emerge -pv ftp didn't mention it. When I ran ftpd -D it would not start but there wasn't any record of why not anywhere that I could find. There was no sign that anything was wrong; when I entered the command, the cursor just went to the next line without a whimper. But ps -a told the tale. Alexander Skwar -- Q:How do you save a drowning lawyer? A:Throw him a rock. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Bryan Whitehead wrote: He said it could ping... I dunno... seems he just needs to figure out how he wants to transfer files. Did the OP try something like: === scp -p -v -c blowfish /local_box_path_to_file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/hda5/ === The above assumes: 1. Blowfish encryption for faster transfers 2. local_box_path_to_file would be something like /home/fred/file.txt 3. 192.168.0.3 is the IP address of the remote box. Check with your router or do a ifconfig -a on the remote box to see what IP address it has. If you have DNS resolution working you can always use host names instead of IP addresses. 4. scp, sftp, ssh will only work if your have started sshd on the remote box (rc-update -a sshd default). Once you're done remove sshd from the default level for security purposes, unless you have secured you machine adequately (e.g. no direct root logins, different port to 22, etc. - read the man pages) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
--- Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? xover==crossover. quoteftp didn't work either/unquote On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, maxim wexler wrote: Hi everybody, Anybody got this working between two PCs and can tell me how to edit the conf files? The NICs are found, the modules are loaded, the net is up and both PCs can ping each other. But transferring files fails. FWIW tcpdump indicates the two PCs are aware of each other. ssh2 is probably overkill since security is not an issue but ftp didn't work either. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, maxim wexler wrote: Hi everybody, Anybody got this working between two PCs and can tell me how to edit the conf files? The NICs are found, the modules are loaded, the net is up and both PCs can ping each other. But transferring files fails. FWIW tcpdump indicates the two PCs are aware of each other. ssh2 is probably overkill since security is not an issue but ftp didn't work either. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Bryan Whitehead wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? I guess by xover they mean as in 2 NIC's one cable cross wired! Matt. On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, maxim wexler wrote: Hi everybody, Anybody got this working between two PCs and can tell me how to edit the conf files? The NICs are found, the modules are loaded, the net is up and both PCs can ping each other. But transferring files fails. FWIW tcpdump indicates the two PCs are aware of each other. ssh2 is probably overkill since security is not an issue but ftp didn't work either. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
He said it could ping... I dunno... seems he just needs to figure out how he wants to transfer files. On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matt Richards wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? I guess by xover they mean as in 2 NIC's one cable cross wired! Matt. On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, maxim wexler wrote: Hi everybody, Anybody got this working between two PCs and can tell me how to edit the conf files? The NICs are found, the modules are loaded, the net is up and both PCs can ping each other. But transferring files fails. FWIW tcpdump indicates the two PCs are aware of each other. ssh2 is probably overkill since security is not an issue but ftp didn't work either. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
yea sounds like it, however, ping uses ICMP and file transfer applications normally use TCP i have had one case where a computer could ping stuff but nothing else because the tcp stacked was messed up and only icmp was working... was a winXP box tho lol . ! Bryan Whitehead wrote: He said it could ping... I dunno... seems he just needs to figure out how he wants to transfer files. On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matt Richards wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: What do you mean by xover? FTP? SCP? NFS? Coda? HTTP? I guess by xover they mean as in 2 NIC's one cable cross wired! Matt. On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, maxim wexler wrote: Hi everybody, Anybody got this working between two PCs and can tell me how to edit the conf files? The NICs are found, the modules are loaded, the net is up and both PCs can ping each other. But transferring files fails. FWIW tcpdump indicates the two PCs are aware of each other. ssh2 is probably overkill since security is not an issue but ftp didn't work either. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
