Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:37:24 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: If you have the disk space to spare, set FEATURES=buildpkg. Then reinstalling a package is as quick as with a binary distro. The further complication there is that in this hypothetical situation you are also likely to be changing some

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:29, Robert Cernansky wrote: Hmm, it can be done with garbage collector principe. Each package will have counter which increases when some package which depend on it is installed. Decreased, when the package is uninstalled. If counter is zero, dependency package can

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: No, that still doesn't work. When the user unmerges kde-meta, with your proposal it will unmerge X11. The next step is that the user emerges gnome which first emerges X11 back again. Except i this example you are likely to install GNOME

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:45:21 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: No, that still doesn't work. When the user unmerges kde-meta, with your proposal it will unmerge X11. The next step is that the user emerges gnome which first emerges X11 back

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Graham Murray wrote: Maybe what is needed is an enhancement to portage to allow the removal of a meta-package to (optionally) also remove the 'real' packages which it caused to be installed. Heard of emerge --depclean? Use it with care, though. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:30:39 +0100 Graham Murray wrote: W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless you keep an independent record of every package

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:39, Matthew R. Lee wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. You can grab a list of all modular X packages at

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew R. Lee wrote: is done. I wasn't convinced, however I tried rebooting. No X, so I logged in and issued 'startx', nothing so I checked '/usr/bin/startx', it's not there, clearly it hadn't installed x So back to xorg-x11-6.8.2.-r8. I've This is a really weird issue that's been

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: is done. I wasn't convinced, however I tried rebooting. No X, so I logged in and issued 'startx', nothing so I checked '/usr/bin/startx', it's not there, clearly it hadn't installed x So back to

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: When user upgrades to modular X.org there is a block that requires him to remove xorg-x11-6.8*. Then the user upgrades, reboots and finds out there is something wrong. So he downgrades. But when downgrading there is no block requiring him to remove modular X first.

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:24, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's a definite possibility. But I don't _think_ everyone encountering this problem has hit it, although I could be wrong. nichoj experienced a similar thing with java-config-1.2 vs. java-config-wrapper. It wasn't many but there were a few

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: tried another emerge --sync to see if that would fix the problem but no joy.   So the question is, how do I force portage to down load and recompile the packages from scratch? You could try `emerge -ep xorg-x11`. I guess what I would do

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: tried another emerge --sync to see if that would fix the problem but no joy. So the question is, how do I force portage to down load and recompile the packages from scratch? You could try `emerge -ep xorg-x11`.

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. You can grab a list of all modular X packages at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-packages.txt and run this: emerge -1

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. You can grab a list of all modular X packages at

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew R. Lee wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. You can grab a list of all modular X packages at

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 23:39, Matthew R. Lee wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. You can grab a list of all modular X packages at

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread W.Kenworthy
yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless you keep an independent record of every package installed. I was pissed because modular didnt work and I couldnt uninstall it! Eventually updates

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:05:19 +0800 W.Kenworthy wrote: yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless you keep an independent record of every package installed. Wouldn't genlop give you that

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Graham Murray
W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless you keep an independent record of every package installed. I was pissed because modular didnt work and I