Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jack

On 2020.04.27 12:47, Jorge Almeida wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack  
 wrote:

>
I just checked "emerge -pe zoom" and the only unstable qt listed is  
qtdiag, which has no stable versions in the tree.   In fact, of the  
483 packages listed, only five are unstable.  If it pulls in lots of  
unstable qt for you, I'd try to figure out why - but obviously only  
if you still need/want to try zoom.

>
Yes, that's about it. But one of them is dev-qt/qtnetwork. It wants  
to install 5.14.2 (unstable), and I have the stable version 5.14.1.


Odd.  zoom-3.5.392530.0421 is perfectly happy with qtnetwork-5.14.1 for  
me.  I would hunt through everything in /etc/portage for something else  
causing that.




Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack  wrote:
>

>
> I just checked "emerge -pe zoom" and the only unstable qt listed is
> qtdiag, which has no stable versions in the tree.   In fact, of the 483
> packages listed, only five are unstable.  If it pulls in lots of
> unstable qt for you, I'd try to figure out why - but obviously only if
> you still need/want to try zoom.
>
Yes, that's about it. But one of them is dev-qt/qtnetwork. It wants to
install 5.14.2 (unstable), and I have the stable version 5.14.1.

Regards

Jorge



Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jack

On 2020.04.26 19:42, Jorge Almeida wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jack  
 wrote:

> On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote:

The slack ebuild might go stable, but the zoom one seems to change  
too often to last 30 days before an update, so stable seems  
unlikely.  At least I don't think either of them pulls in many (or  
even any) other unstable packages.

>
Well, it pulls unstable qt stuff, which is really the problem. Last  
time I tried, emerge choked on one of those, just before trying to  
compile zoom itself.


I just checked "emerge -pe zoom" and the only unstable qt listed is  
qtdiag, which has no stable versions in the tree.   In fact, of the 483  
packages listed, only five are unstable.  If it pulls in lots of  
unstable qt for you, I'd try to figure out why - but obviously only if  
you still need/want to try zoom.




Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jack  wrote:
>
> On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack
> >  wrote:
> > >

> The slack ebuild might go stable, but the zoom one seems to change too
> often to last 30 days before an update, so stable seems unlikely.  At
> least I don't think either of them pulls in many (or even any) other
> unstable packages.
>
Well, it pulls unstable qt stuff, which is really the problem. Last
time I tried, emerge choked on one of those, just before trying to
compile zoom itself.

Jorge



Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jack

On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack  
 wrote:

>
> On 2020.04.26 15:08, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> [snip]

> I run a mostly stable amd64 system with selected ~amd64 packages.  I
> use both slack and zoom reasonably often, and have not had any  
install

> related problems.  (I don't necessarily TRUST either of them, but my
> use of them is for a project with nothing particularly confidential  
of

> private.)  I'd say if you care enough to bother - start a separate
> thread about why those two fail emerge for you.  I seem to have
> recurring problems with audio and/or video, but I'm pretty sure  
that is

> hardware and/or system related - not due directly to either slack or
> zoom.
>
I'll see about pulseaudio first, and if discord doesn't work even so
I'll try that. Meanwhile, the ebuilds may change, or even go stable.
Thanks,

Jorge
The slack ebuild might go stable, but the zoom one seems to change too  
often to last 30 days before an update, so stable seems unlikely.  At  
least I don't think either of them pulls in many (or even any) other  
unstable packages.


Years ago, pulseaudio seemed to have a bad reputation for being really  
difficult to deal with, but that is no longer the case, so hopefully  
you'll make progress in that direction.


Jack



Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack  wrote:
>
> On 2020.04.26 15:08, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> [snip]

> I run a mostly stable amd64 system with selected ~amd64 packages.  I
> use both slack and zoom reasonably often, and have not had any install
> related problems.  (I don't necessarily TRUST either of them, but my
> use of them is for a project with nothing particularly confidential of
> private.)  I'd say if you care enough to bother - start a separate
> thread about why those two fail emerge for you.  I seem to have
> recurring problems with audio and/or video, but I'm pretty sure that is
> hardware and/or system related - not due directly to either slack or
> zoom.
>
I'll see about pulseaudio first, and if discord doesn't work even so
I'll try that. Meanwhile, the ebuilds may change, or even go stable.
Thanks,

Jorge