RE: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Simon Peyton Jones
I think that would be a fine idea, but it's always hard - pages change their status (a proposal becomes part of GHC) - a page may belong in multiple places - people keep URLs in bookmarks, and they are linked from other pages in Trac so moving pages is painful. The last is significant. Do we

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Jan Stolarek
I'm all for improving organization of the wiki but I'm not sure about this idea. What happens when a proposal gets implemented? You can't just move the page to a new address. You can create a new wiki page describing the final dsign that was implemented and replace the content of the proposal

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Jacques Carette
Suggestion: Why not use the namespace 'Design' rather than 'Proposal'? Rationale: a Proposal is a proposed design, and a final implementation is, well, an implementation of that design. So what the thing is does not change, but its status (proposal vs implemented) does. And, in fact, there

Re: I'm going to disable DPH until someone starts maintaining it

2014-10-15 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
Hi Austin, I haven't heard back from you about this, and D302 has been waiting for review in phab for two weeks. This seems to be a minor change, so if I don't hear otherwise by the end of the week, I'm going to go ahead and merge. Thanks, Geoff On 08/29/2014 01:29 PM, Geoffrey Mainland wrote:

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew Farmer
Instead of encoding the status in the URL, since we don't want URLs to change with the status of the proposal/feature changes, it sounds like we really just want something better than TitleIndex for browsing the wiki. (I've never seen a Trac wiki where TitleIndex is that useful anyway, other than

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Herbert Valerio Riedel
On 2014-10-15 at 18:09:32 +0200, Andrew Farmer wrote: [...] I'm not really familiar with what Trac Wiki is capable of. Is it possible to add tags/categories to a page and then make an auto-generated list of links to all pages with a given tag/category? Fyi, Trac by default has no tags, and

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Jan Stolarek
Joachim yes, you are right that proposals and designs are different things. And we already have a namespace for that: Commentary! Good point. So when a Proposal gets implemented, this should be clearly noted at the top of the Proposal page, linking to the relevant Comentary page (...) The

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2014, 18:48 +0200 schrieb Jan Stolarek: Joachim yes, you are right that proposals and designs are different things. And we already have a namespace for that: Commentary! Good point. So when a Proposal gets implemented, this should be clearly noted at the

Re: Wiki: special namespace for proposals?

2014-10-15 Thread Carter Schonwald
yeah, agreed currently on the wiki its sometimes hard to determine which pages are this is how we implemented it vs this is a bunch of different ideas and approaches we're trying to layout On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Joachim Breitner m...@joachim-breitner.de wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch,

Re: I'm going to disable DPH until someone starts maintaining it

2014-10-15 Thread Austin Seipp
Hi Geoff, Sorry about that - this one slipped by my radar amongst a lot of other things. I'm spending today in the review queue, so I'll get to it. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Geoffrey Mainland mainl...@apeiron.net wrote: Hi Austin, I haven't heard back from you about this, and D302 has

Re: RFC: Source-markup language for GHC User's Guide

2014-10-15 Thread Austin Seipp
OK, to kick this thread around: It seems like several people who touch the users guide are in favor of this due to: - Simpler markup - DocBook compatibility - Hopefully attracting more users if it's easier to manage. Cons: - +1 Dependency (minor) - No formal grammar (I don't think it