Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Tristan Tarrant
Well thats why we want to have only GtkXmHTML installed and only if it's needed. GtkXmHTML is on its way out. Check out the gtkhtml module in CVS. The only dependency on Gnome is for the test application and the bonobo component. Otherwise it looks like plain GTK+ stuff to me. It's not wise

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Kevin Cozens
Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ? With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this... So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the preferred browser

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 10 Nov, Kevin Cozens wrote: Reading the discussions re: the help system has made me think I understand why compiling GIMP always broke at a point where it needed a GtkXmhtml header file. I use a RedHat system without Gnome installed and I'm beginning to understand that GtkXmhtml is a

Re: Re: Tile Cache Size

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 12:56:58PM +0100, "Ewald R. de Wit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the algorithm involved is a simple 256 byte lookup table (or 3 of them for each of the RGB channels). There is not much one can screw up about it, both performance and precision wise. The only different

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Eduardo Perez
Marc Lehmann wrote: demand a net-connection and call babelfish for untranslated items ;) (runs...) What about a central site, where developers send their files to be translated, and a group of volunteers translates them to as many languajes as they can? Perhaps there could even exists a

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Eduardo Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about a central site, where developers send their files to be translated, and a group of volunteers translates them to as many languajes as they can? Perhaps there could even exists a database of common expresions ('Yes', 'Save as', 'Are you

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ? With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this... So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the preferred

Re: Clean up and Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it. YES!! I do especially like the new menu hierarchy you suggested. Any volunteers for this job? PS: Sven I think

Re: Plugins

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 8 Nov, Marc Lehmann wrote: Hint: It's the way menues are handled by Gtk... And if this leads to segfaults it is surely a bug in gkt+? No, really, I am _simply_ interested in how a call to gettext can result in a "legal" segfault. The most likely way to cause a segfault is to write

Re: Plugins

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 10 Nov, Marc Lehmann wrote: That all plug-ins that are part of the distribution should have corretc translated menu entries is (for me) obvious. The problem is new (third-party) plug-ins. These problems are solvable by a consistent way to handle the translations. Im working on these but

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Andrew Kieschnick
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 Nov, Andrew Kieschnick wrote: libgimp and libgimpui are LGPLed, so that isn't a problem. Really? Not mine Serious: If it'd be LPGLed it would have had such a header in every source file and in the COPYING file which isn't the

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 08:34:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious: If it'd be LPGLed it would have had such a header in every source file and in the COPYING file which isn't the case... There certainly is the COPYING file and the files all refer to the library GPL, I think that is

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:47:48PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is possible that I decided to use the GPL header because the code in gimpenv.c was partly moved from gimp proper, which is GPL. That's bad, so libgimp in cvs is actually GPL ;- My dreams come true ;) --

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Marc Lehmann writes: On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:47:48PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is possible that I decided to use the GPL header because the code in gimpenv.c was partly moved from gimp proper, which is GPL. That's bad, so libgimp in cvs is actually GPL

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:20:27PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think gimpenv.c is in any way unique in this sense, probably many of the other files in libgimp also contain code snippets that have originally been in some file in the GIMP proper. It, of course, depends

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Except... gimpenv.c... Well, I have looked at it know, but it should be fairly easy to make a cleanroom implementation of the functionality in that file only by looking at the code that calls it. The header is under the LGPL. Would that count? ;-) Salut, Sven

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread David Odin
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 09:03:46PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 02:50:18AM +0100, David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I'm alone, since nobody complain about gimp perl any more these days. They don't? Then why do I get so many complaints? ;) At

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:23:15PM +0100, Eduardo Perez wrote: Marc Lehmann wrote: demand a net-connection and call babelfish for untranslated items ;) (runs...) What about a central site, where developers send their files to be translated, and a group of volunteers translates them

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 11 Nov, Andrew Kieschnick wrote: Hmm, that sure as hell looks like an LGPL to me. I seriously doubt your copy of gimp is different than mine... LGPL stands for "Lesser GNU Public Licence". Now do me a favour and count the word lesser in this COPYING file... Then do this again for the