Re: [Gimp-developer] Language settings

2001-05-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Harald Prasse writes: I have The GIMP installed under WIN2000 with Local language settings set to Belgian... I'd like to set it to English though, how do I get it done? The set lang=c in the autoexec.bat doesn't do anything Probably Win2k doesn't use autoexec.bat? Try setting it from

RE: [gimp-developer] UI Stuff

2001-06-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Martijn Weisbeek writes: The current release-version BTW is not a good advertisement. Well, luckily I don't have to worry about market share... There's been an error while compiling somehow (which required some patches) and those patches have not been implemented in the download.

[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: gimptool.c

2001-11-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero writes: From gimptool I have: if test x${CC+set} != xset ; then cc='gcc' else cc=$CC fi From his posted file: cmd = g_strdup_printf (gcc %s %s -o %s%s %s %s %s %s, Yes, that obviously is a FIXME. But hey, this was the first version of a

[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: gimptool.c

2001-11-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero writes: Another possible FIXME: does GTK provide a define or something for dir separator? It will clean the code a bit. Yes, GLib has G_DIR_SEPARATOR (and G_SEARCHPATH_SEPARATOR). But I don't think a something like gimptool --cflags should blindly output

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Branko Collin writes: Maybe I am mistaken about this, but it would seem that Adobe offers the Photoshop SDK and the Photoshop file format specifications for free download at http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/gapsdk/PhotoshopSDK.html. Yep. Except that they don't document the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugin Request/Hunt

2001-12-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I REALLY REALLY need a plugin that mimics the Contact Sheet 2 plugin for photoshop. The Gimp is awesome, fills a lot of my requirements, but without the plug/script I still need photoshop. Do you use the GIMP on Windows? Is Contact Sheet 2 a filter plug-in (and not Format, Automation, or

Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.2.x CVS build

2002-01-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: We've discussed several workarounds but none has made it into CVS until now. I hope that Yosh and Tor will speak up and tell us why. Well, I haven't dared touch configure.in any more until 1.2.3 has been released. Basically, I am waiting for Yosh to decide how to resolve

Re: [Gimp-developer] Photoshop brushes

2002-02-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I thought I saw some time ago somewhere that Photoshop 6 would have multi-coloured brushes (like GIMP's pixmap brushes), but that I then didn't find any documentation for their format in the Photoshop SDK. Now, however, I can't find anything about this, nor does my Photoshop 6 Tryout seem to

[Gimp-developer] GIMP for Windows 1.2.3?

2002-03-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Branko Collin writes: I have not seen any announcement on www.gimp.org or this list, that is why I am asking: is GIMP for Windows 1.2.3 official? Umm, define official? Is GIMP for (pick your random Unix system) official? Which of the prebuilt GIMPs for Solaris (I assume there are several)

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP for Windows 1.2.3?

2002-03-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Lutz Müller writes: If some Windows guy steps forward to port gphoto2 (http://www.gphoto.org) to Windows, you would even have digital camera support _in_ the GIMP through gtkam's plugin (i.e. capture from within the GIMP, download directly into the GIMP, etc.). Umm, the gPhoto site says

Re: [Gimp-developer] action files in GIMP?

2002-04-19 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: Unfortunately, the developers who do the windows port don't use the same config mechanisms as under unix/cygwin, Actually, I do. (Hans doesn't.) and Gtk is proven to be hard to port to that environment. ... but I still fear that porting

Re: [Gimp-developer] dependancies

2002-06-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Philip Brown writes: so far, you seem to have described a situation that implies that autoconf can work without pkgconfig, but pkgconfig isnt that useful without autoconf. Sure it is, it can be used in simple hand-written Makefiles, or even directly from the command line. You did not

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp_selection_invert for a Gimp plug_in under windows

2002-08-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
none of the symbols that start with an underscore should be exported. If they really are, it's a bug and you should expect that they won't be available in the next release. OK, I'll remove them. (I have a vague recollection that *some* of the underscore entry points really *is* used by

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp_selection_invert for a Gimp plug_in under windows

2002-08-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: I have a vague recollection that *some* of the underscore entry points really *is* used by another DLL. Don't have time to check right now. Yes, _readchannel is used by libgimpui. And the iwarp plug-in uses _gimp_layer_copy(). --tml

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp 1.3.x for windows

2002-09-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
MecaT writes: I wondering if ever gimp for windows with gtk2 will be builded? I am ot waiting for any date of release, but can you tell me - will be gimp 1.3.x ported on windows? Hans Breuer has done it (at least at some time) using MSVC. Hans, can you tell us more? If I understand

[Gimp-developer] Re: Fw: [Gimp-user] Threshold Crop Plug-in

2002-10-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Carol Spears writes: my first instinct is to tell you *not* to try to build anything for gimp on windows. Actually, if a plug-in is reasonably portably written, building it on Windows isn't necessarily any more complicated than on Unix. To build and install a plug-in foobar: gimptool

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Fw: [Gimp-user] Threshold Crop Plug-in

2002-10-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Kevin Myers writes: Sorry for the extra email, but one question: When using gimptool as you describe below, what is the correct approach for handling the configuration-specific files such as config.h, gdkconfig.h, and glibconfig.h which aren't in the normal include paths in the developer

[Gimp-developer] GIMP for windows -- Force Save As to a specified location

2002-10-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I am doing a remote start of GIMP for Windows from a Visual Basic 6 application. that looks something like this: response = Shell(C:\Program Files\GIMP\bin\gimp.exe C:\ImpImages\Main.SelectedImage) Is there some way to force the default directory to be the same as the directory I

[Gimp-developer] GIMP for windows -- Force Save As to a specified location

2002-10-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: response = Shell(C:\Program Files\GIMP\bin\gimp.exe C:\ImpImages\Main.SelectedImage) Is there some way to force the default directory to be the same as the directory I specified when remote starting GIMP? (Didn't I already send a reply to this message to the

Re: [Gimp-developer] linux-graphics-dev

2002-11-01 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Steinar H. Gunderson writes: Does GIMP use the X clipboard at all, BTW? I think the Windows version uses its internal clipboard, at least (which is quite annoying :-) For text or images? Annoying that it does, or doesn't? It uses the Windows clipboard for text when you use the normal

[Gimp-developer] Re: Which Gimp

2002-12-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Robin Rowe writes: I guess you are unaware of the gimpwin-dev list. That list is (with hindsight) misnamed, it doesn't in fact have much discussion about GIMP itself at all. But the name goes back to the early days of the GIMP port to Windows, when I had hopes there might be lots of discussion

[Gimp-developer] libgimpproxy?

2002-12-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Hi, I don't know if this is a silly question, I am quite confused and tired, but could someone tell what the purpose of libgimpproxy is...? Why do the functions it contains have to be duplicated in it and in the GIMP core? Couldn't the GIMP core also use those functions from a library? --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Just managed to build HEAD GIMP with autotoolson Win32...

2002-12-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I wrote: I had to add a glue file for libgimptool, to enable the dynamic linking to the main executable, either gimp.exe or tool-safe-mode.exe (?). Sven Neumann writes: please note that we don't build any tool plug-ins on UNIX since it's horribly broken and might even be removed

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [gimpwin-dev] New GIMP build available

2003-01-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: Let's hope that Tor will find the time to do a new win32 build if we finally come around to do the official 1.2.4 source release. Sure. I'll do it ASAP after that. I'd also welcome if we could get such an announcement mail (the one Tor sent to gimpwin-dev) next time

[Gimp-developer] status of the mailing-list merger ?

2003-01-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: I had the impression that were was overall aggreement that [EMAIL PROTECTED] should die and people should be asked to subsribe to gimp-developer and/or gtk-devel lists instead. Yes, there wasn't much opposition. I haven't done anything about it yet, though. It will

Re: [Gimp-developer] sourceforge cvs issue

2003-01-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Branko Collin writes: Is not all your code in the GIMP CVS repository? If so, why not? I have told this several times, most recently earlier today: I have local changes I haven't committed to the (real) GIMP CVS, true. [...] As soon as 1.2.4 has been officially released I'll try to see

Re: [Gimp-developer] sourceforge cvs issue

2003-01-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Raphaël Quinet writes: From my point of view, I think that it would be better to integrate these changes before the 1.2.4 release. It's just that maybe half of the changes are really quite ugly hacks to get non-ASCII file and directory names working somewhat better on Windows, where GTK+

Re: [Gimp-developer] sourceforge cvs issue

2003-02-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: IMO Tor should commit his filename-conversion hacks. I wrote: OK, I'll merge them in then, with ifdefs as appropriate not to affect behaviour on Unix. I'll probably have time to do it next weekend. It took some time before I could do it, but now I have merged in those

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-print mainline

2003-02-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: We usually try to avoid to use terms as the Win32 GIMP port or the OS X GIMP port since GIMP is multi-platform and there are no ports to other operating systems. Isn't it the terms version or project that should be avoided, not port? --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [gimpwin-users] Script-Fu Erase every otherrow not erasing every each other row

2003-02-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
(gimpwin-users readers can largely ignore this message... just keeping this thread there, too, as it started there) Manish Singh writes: It looks to be trio's fault, there is a bug similar to this opened already: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101874 Perhaps special case

[Gimp-developer] The gimpwin-dev list has now been closed...

2003-05-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
As Sven suggested a long time ago, the gimpwin-dev list has now been closed... I directed people to subscribe to this list, gtk-devel, or gtk-app-devel instead, as appropriate. P.S: Anybody know of a way to get the archived gimpwin-dev messages out from yahoogroups and into some not

[Gimp-developer] Re: The Gimp on c't special CD

2003-06-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
What should one do with requests like this? If I recall correctly, I already once have told these people that they don't need any more permissions than what they already have to redistribute GIMP, and that even if they did need some permission, I am not entitled to give them it on the behalf of

pspi (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: ANNOUNCE: gimp-plugin-template1.3.1)

2003-07-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Nathan Carl Summers writes: Gimp plugins do not link with the Gimp and thus do not fall under Gimp's licence. Gimp plugins do link with libgimp*, which is licensed under the LGPL. Are there any licensing issues, BTW, with the pspi plug-in? (The GIMP plug-in that interfaces to Photoshop

Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP (was: Re: [Gimp-developer]tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans)

2003-07-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Schumacher writes: According to Tor Lillqvist, there was something missing from Pango 1.2.3 and fixed shortly after the release. BTW, I now made new pre-built pango-1.2.3 Win32 packages on www.gimp.org/win32/downloads.html, with the missing exports added, so building GIMP 1.3.x

Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP (was: Re: [Gimp-developer]tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans)

2003-07-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Alan Horkan writes: Any chance of binaries [for Win32] for testing? If you ask nicely, I might be presuaded to zip up what I've got... (Just built it on Win32 for the first time in a while.) And what compiler did you use (wondering if I'll be able to get gtk-wimp to work with the Gimp 1.3

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimpwin32-io.h

2003-07-29 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Henrik Brix Andersen writes: Removing the fallback definitions broke compilation on at least one platform, namely GNU/Linux which doesn't define _O_BINARY and/or _O_TEMPORARY. Most likely other unix-like platforms where affected as well. Since Unix systems don't distinguish between binary

Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP (was: Re: [Gimp-developer]tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans)

2003-07-29 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Hans Breuer writes: This is a regression of previous versions. IIRC it was caused by the usage of gdk_eindow_new() with parameters 'in range' and additional adjusted by SafeAdjustWindowRect and the code later calling gdk_window_move with coordinates directly derived from the current

Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP (was: Re: [Gimp-developer]tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans)

2003-07-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: There also seems to be some handle leak when GIMP is starting up and queries all the plug-ins. Also, something needs to be done to #98737 soon. (Perhaps related, I had to start GIMP at least four times before it got past all the plug-ins and wrote out the pluginrc

[Gimp-developer] GIMP HEAD Win32 binaries

2003-08-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
www.gimp.org/win32/gimp-head-20030813.zip. Haven't really tested GIMP HEAD much at all myself, but it starts OK and some random painting and filtering did work. Bug reports to bugzilla, please. Plase don't tell end-users yet, until I have had a chance to do some more testing myself, to avoid

GIMP, Win32 MinGW (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] Third big seriousmeeting from GIMPcon)

2003-08-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Schumacher writes: The result of make after creating the libintl.a libiconv.a files: Creating library file: .libs/libgimpui-1.3.dll.a .libs/gimpui.o(.text+0x159):gimpui.c: undefined reference to `gimp_min_colors' .libs/gimpui.o(.text+0x170):gimpui.c: undefined reference to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XCF

2003-08-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I won't take any stand on either side (or how many sides are there?) in the ongoing discussion, just air some fresh thoughts... Many of the image formats suggested are some kind of archive formats (zip, ar) on the outside. I understand that one important benefit from this is that you can store

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XCF

2003-08-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
BTW, what happened to GNOME's libefs? From quickly browsing the sources, it seems to have been included in bonobo still in bonobo-1.0.22, but then bonobo was renamed to libbonobo, and I don't see any trace of it in libbonobo-2.3.6. Was it such a badly designed disaster that it was dropped? Or did

[Gimp-developer] winsnap plugin build problems

2003-08-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Schumacher writes: When compiling current cvs on win32, I get: ../../build/win32/compile-resource winsnap.rc winsnap-win32res.o /bin/sh: ../../build/win32/compile-resource: No such file or directory ../../build/win32/compile-resource probably *is* there, but what causes that message

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sorry if this is a silly question, but does the maximize button on modern X11 window managers behave differently than in Windows? Doesn't it always make the window fill the whole screen? (Hmm, or is it so that even on Windows it is possible to make the maximize button not always maximizing to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 07:23:39PM +, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a silly question, but does the maximize button on modern X11 window managers behave differently than in Windows? Doesn't it always make the window fill the whole screen? Sorry, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Ken Burns style animation tool: standalone or plug-in?

2003-09-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Jakub Steiner writes: I have sucessfully done this with an existing GIMP plugin - GAP's move path. At PAL resolution. The only problem is it needs a lot of disk space and RAM. Hmm, didn't know GAP could do that. I don't think GAP is suitable for this. Takes way too much disk space. Or does

Re: [Gimp-developer] Ken Burns style animation tool: standalone or plug-in?

2003-09-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Alan Horkan writes: If you are particularly ambitious could it be an substantial Animation Tool, an interface like a standalone application but substantially reusing the GIMP components, a sister to the GIMP if you will? (If I am being wildly unrealistic as usual, just say so). Umm...

Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshot plug-in status

2003-09-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Henrik Brix Andersen writes: Using gimp_pixel_rgn_set_row() may work for some images, but since GdkPixbufs internally have aligned data which may result in padding garbage inserted between two rows, you will need to use gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride() and iterate over the rows one by one. But

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Ken Burns style animation tool: standalone or plug-in?

2003-09-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Burton Samograd writes: You should look at Cinellera. Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... It was strangely hard to find Cinellera using Google, I Umm yes, that was because it's spelled Cinelerra, not Cinellera... Still, I find it odd that neither the heroinewarrior.com

Re: [Gimp-developer] Ken Burns style animation tool: standalone or plug-in?

2003-09-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Daniel Rogers writes: hmm, last time I checked, plugins run in a different process space, so setting up callbacks is a bit more difficult than normal. Well, obviously I meant callbacks using the normal PDB mechanism, and not directly. --tml ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshot plug-in status

2003-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Alan Horkan writes: I was just asking because the code was being changed anyway. Well, actually it's not certain at all that the screenshot code used on Win32 will be changed. The winsnap plug-in works, and even if code from it was copied into screenshot.c, it wouldn't still work the same way

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface streamlining

2003-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
While talking about UI ideas, how about keyboard-mouse chording? Currently, while painting with the mouse (or tablet pen), the other hand is presumably idle. Would it be a good idea to be able to use keyboard keys to modify the painting action? I am thinking of some fresh ways to interact using

Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshot plug-in status

2003-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I was hoping that there was interest in getting rid of (almost) all differences between platforms and doing a common screenshot plug-in would be one more step towards this goal. Sad to hear that you prefer to keep the winsnap plug-in alive. Well yes, that is a good goal. But as it started to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Kudos to The GIMP Developers!

2003-09-24 Thread Tor Lillqvist
tongue-in-cheek So the huge image you generated is a fractal? Isn't it a bit silly to render such images (especially if they are huge) with GIMP, where all of the image's pixels are kept in memory (or the tile cache) all the time? Aren't many fractals such that you could calculate the value of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Kudos to The GIMP Developers!

2003-09-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tino Schwarze writes: You're right. If you could tell me such a program... I would have used it. The nearest approximation was xfractint but it's cumbersome to use and doesn't have a gradient editor (and I'm not sure whether it's capable of rendering 2x14000 pixel images). ;-)

[Gimp-developer] Fresh Windows binaries of development GIMP

2003-10-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Built from CVS today. www.gimp.org/win32/gimp-1.3.22-20031009.zip www.gimp.org/win32/gimp-dev-1.3.22-20031009.zip As earlier, the dependencies are downloadable from www.gimp.org/win32/downloads.html. Check the end of the page. The librsvg dependency is new compared to my previous build of GIMP

[Gimp-developer] [gimpwin-users] Re: Fresh Windows binaries of development GIMP

2003-10-10 Thread Tor Lillqvist
carloscrae writes: i still have the same problem regarding plug-in installation problems with directories that have spaces Yes, that problem is in GLib, not GIMP. Should have mentioned that in the announcement mail. I am not distributing new binaries for GLib (yet). I probably should do a

[Gimp-developer] Re: [gimpwin-users] Fresh Windows binaries of development GIMP

2003-10-10 Thread Tor Lillqvist
David Moisan writes: librsvg dependency is new compared to my previous build of GIMP ^^^ librsvg-2.4.0.zip 404 Not Found Oops. :) Oops, sorry, forgot to upload the librsvg zipfiles. Now they are there. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fresh Windows binaries of development GIMP

2003-10-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I just lost some 50 mail messages due to an unfortunate interaction between my virus scanner and mail reader (and some carelessness on my part), sigh. If you have sent me personal mail in the last 18 hours or so, please re-send... --tml ___

[Gimp-developer] Re: [gimpwin-users] Fresh Windows binaries of development GIMP

2003-10-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: Oops, sorry, forgot to upload the librsvg zipfiles. Now they are there. And now is there also zipfiles for libgsf, which is needed by the librsvg DLL (which is needed by the svg plug-in)... --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing

[Gimp-developer] OK to stop using .def files for Windows builds with gcc?

2003-10-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I am getting tired of maintaining the .def files that list entry points exported by DLLs. Gcc doesn't really need them anyway. If you don't give it any .def file, it exports all global symbols, just like Unix compilers/linkers traditionally work. (All the Windows binaries of GLib, GTK, GIMP etc

[Gimp-developer] Re: OK to stop using .def files for Windows builds with gcc?

2003-10-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Arnaud Charlet writes: Is it really the case that MSVC can't create DLLs without .def files ? No. But the alternative is to decorate every function and variable to be exported with __declspec(dllexport). That would clutter the headers unbearable. (The exported variables do have to be decorated

[Gimp-developer] Re: OK to stop using .def files for Windows builds with gcc?

2003-10-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: No. But the alternative is to decorate every function and variable to be exported with __declspec(dllexport). To be more precise, preprocessor macros would have to be used in such a way that when compiling the library in question, the compiler sees __declspec(dllexport

[Gimp-developer] Re: Major corrections in Curves and Levels dialogs.

2003-10-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Just my 2 euro cents: The linear histogram illustration Sven provided looks a lot more like histograms of typical images do in other applications than the logarithmic one. I have often wondered why GIMP's (traditional logarithmic) histograms look so different than the ones you see in other

[Gimp-developer] Re: 16 new brushes for the GIMP

2003-10-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
---BeginMessage--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on gimpwin-users: [...] I just wanted to let everyone know that I've created another 16 custom brushes for GIMP (in addition to the initial 16 I offered a few days ago). I would like to create about 10-15 per day but I'm running out of copyright-

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: 16 new brushes for the GIMP

2003-10-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Owen writes: Anyway, most of them are pretty good. but for this kind of images, image pipes (.gih brushes) would be even better. (each image pipe brush containig a set of related images, for instance diffferent kinds of fruit, different size and colour leaves, etc.) toad_walker said he would

[Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
(Redirected to gimp-developer) Is there any special reason that (almost?) all win32-specific stuff seems to be missing from release tarballs No. The reason is nobody has tried to build for Win32 from a tarball, so nobody has noticed... or at least not reported her problems. (the same thing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-04 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: I am not sure about the purpose of libgimpbase/gimpwin32-io.h. Is it used only in the GIMP source tree or is it supposed to be installed so external plug-ins can use it as well? I assume it is to be used only in the source tree. Anyway, it should certainly be added

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I wrote: If you are using MSVC, I guess the real question is, is there any chance that we will be able to claim supporting a MSVC build out of the box with a straight face? Hans Breuer writes: Probably not, at least not until the issues outlined in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.22

2003-11-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: Then the build should be removed from gimp's line in CVSROOT/modules . Will this have some odd consequences, or can it be done right away? Anyone object? It might be that people will have to re-get gimp from CVS if build is removed from gimp's line in CVSROOT/modules

[Gimp-developer] [gimpwin-users] Re: Gimp 1.3.23 available

2003-11-29 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: Possibly the lcms.dll in the lcms11.zip file isn't suitable as such to be used from GIMP, but will have to be rebuilt from source. Yes, that seems to be the case. I don't know the technical reasons, but when I built the lcms DLL from sources (a rather simple ./configure

[Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 1.3.23 available

2003-11-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
A couple of small issues noticed after installing Jernej's build of GIMP 1.3.23 for Windows (Thanks!): - The fontconfic configuration file isn't included. It should be as gimp-top\etc\fonts\fonts.conf. Without this file no fonts are found for the text tool to use. This is easy to fix, just put

[Gimp-developer] [gimpwin-users] Re: Gimp 1.3.23 available

2003-12-01 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: I did build the latest libwmf (2.8.1). It required some minor patches to its source. But it's not installation-location-independent (like for instance GTK and GIMP are). It looks for its fonts in a I location fixed at build time. This is not acceptable on Windows. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Adam D. Moss writes: The only thing I can think of would be if the windows.h/windef.h/etc headers that get pulled into just about every file on a win32 build expand into monsterous evil and add measurably to the unit compilation time. Well, that probably is the reason. windows.h *is*

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Roger Leigh writes: MSYS does not depend on cygwin, BTW. It's entirely standalone. MSYS is a *fork* (version) of Cygwin. As the mingw FAQ says, The POSIX layer used by MSYS is a fork of the 1.3.3 version of Cygwin. (But maybe that was what you meant.) They both have to implement fork()

Re: [Gimp-developer] Alternative zoom algorithm

2004-01-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Simon Budig writes: This has the advantage that the behaviour is exactly predictable in every zoom level, since always exactly the same rectangle of the viewable area gets magnified. Hear, hear! This seems like a big win to me. I'm all for this. It seems that some people are scared away

[Gimp-developer] Re: Windows suggestion

2004-01-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
codemastr writes: Well the people in #gimp were telling me in Linux that's called a sticky window. If so, they probably misunderstood you (or I did). A sticky window is (as I understand it) a window that is always on top of all other windows, and stays sticked at the same place even if you

[Gimp-developer] Re: Win GIMP

2004-02-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
(Cc:ing to the gimp-developer list.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wanted to add a feature to Windows Version of gimp but I don't know how to get started developing for windows. It seems that the dev site is mainly for the linux person. Or at least the directions. Most of the current

Re: [Gimp-developer] Win GIMP - tablet support

2004-02-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
is there any hope for tablet (with pressure sensitivity at least) support in win port of the gimp? The issue isn't in the Windows port of *GIMP*. I am rather certain the problems are in the Windows backend in *GTK* (GDK). It needs to have some loving care applied to its tablet support. If it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Win GIMP - tablet support

2004-02-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Jakub Friedl (listy) writes: this bug stops many users from using gimp. Does it really? Aren't tablets (at least the more expensive, pressure- and tilt-sensitive ones) mainly used by graphics arts professionals? These guys typically live and breathe in Photoshop, don't they? I doubt they would

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Simon Budig writes: If a windows user really needs scripting, I'd recommend to install e.g. a bash. True, but doesn't necessarily help. The Win32 process invokation API (CreateProcess()) doesn't use a argument vector like Unix does. It uses a command line. The argv that a C or C+++ main()

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] TheMark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: It is not equivalent but similar. To execute commands from a file you use cat filename | gimp --batch - and I really don't see why this should not work on Windows. Sorry, this is probably a very silly question, but could someone post a minimal example of the

[Gimp-developer] forwarded message from Jernej =?utf-7?q?Simon+AQ0-i+AQ0-?=

2004-04-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
FYI: ---BeginMessage--- I uploaded a revised version of the installer, which now includes the help files and gimp-freetype plug-in. This installer will also check for possible DLL conflicts and offer you an option to rename the conflicting files. As usual, the installer is available from

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp usability tests

2004-04-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Carol Spears writes: TheGIMP is not photoshop. it was written so that linux people would not not have to use a different operating system Was it? GIMP was originally written on the commercial Unixes of the time (Solaris, HP-UX etc), wasn't it? And it used Motif. And it still runs as well on

[Gimp-developer] Re: GPL discussion (was something else)

2004-05-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: According to you, this shouldn't be. Additionally, one would assume that these are additional restrictions that are explicitly forbidden by the GPL itself. But these restrictions are placed by the MySQL copyright holders themselves, aren't

Re: [Gimp-developer] Who's coming to GIMPCon?

2004-06-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I booked my flight yesterday, and registered at the conference (although no email confirmation yet...?). See you in Kristiansand. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

[Gimp-developer] Confirmation for GUADEC accomodation?

2004-06-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Has anybody else received an confirmation after booking a student flat when registering for the conference? I haven't. I did get a confirmation for the conference registration, but on the other hand no charge has showed up on my credit card yet. And no reply to my inqury to the FiloNova address.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Image cut-n-paste; Mac clipboard plugin

2004-07-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Brion Vibber writes: How is image cut-n-paste handled on Win32? Windows apps use DIB (.bmp) format for clipboard transfer; does the GDK backend handle DIB-PNG conversion? I took a quick look around gdkselection-win32.c friends but didn't see anything obvious. There is a

[Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: When an image file we open has an embedded color profile we should ask the user if the image should be converted to linear sRGB (which is what GIMP assumes internally). Er, what's linear about sRGB? It's gamma encoded (and that's a good thing). Doesn't the term linear

Re: [Gimp-developer] Image cut-n-paste; Mac clipboard plugin

2004-07-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: What is the state of support for the GDK clipboard in the win32 backend? For the *GDK* clipboard only cutpaste of text is supported. The winclipboard plug-in uses the Windows clipboard directly. Michael reported that he can't even copy and paste image data from one

Re: [Gimp-developer] Image cut-n-paste; Mac clipboard plugin

2004-07-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
When I started to implement the GDK clipboard functionality I was hoping there was better support for it in the win32 GDK backend. Thinking a bit more on it, adding support for cutpaste of images to gdk/win32 would probably not be hard at all. Much code from winclipboard.c can be reused. For

Re: [Gimp-developer] easy questions

2004-07-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
The second is, I haven't looked at the code at all, but is the GIMP multithreaded and/or does it absolutely require a multitasking OS? You won't be able to use any plugin without a multitasking OS... I think what the OP really meant to ask whether GIMP requires a *pre-emptively*

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I am afraid that this is not possible simply because the color selector is not associated with an image. All we can do is to correct the color selector using the monitor profile. You mean that the colour selector would implicitly always be sRGB? I'm afraid that's not a good idea. Assume

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: Almost all of the messages that cause this problem don't come from the GIMP application. They are created by libraries that we are using and these libaries aren't necessarily using g_print() and g_printerr(). Nope, you have it backwards. 3rd-party libraries who write to

Re: [Gimp-developer] fonts

2004-09-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: The information given above may be appropriate for adding fonts to your win32 system but it is irrelevant for GIMP on Win32. On Win32, fontconfig by default uses the Windows fonts directory, i.e. the same fonts that Windows uses itself. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
gtk-app-devel-list people, check the start of this thread from the gimp-developer archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-developer%40lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/msg07988.html Sven Neumann writes: There got to be a way to change this behaviour of g_print(), no? Well, one could redirect stdout

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
William Skaggs writes: What about a user who wants to file a bug report? Surely they are relevant in that case? They can then start the GUI app with explicit redirection of stdout and stderr to a file. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The messages would ideally be able to be shown in a real window (not the console) And what's so unreal about a console window? Is is just that they are black and white and make (some) people think of MS-DOS? (Some call console windows DOS boxes and seem to think

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-19 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I wrote: Except that on Windows it's not or, but and. Just starting a GUI application from a command shell in a console window doesn't make its stderr and stdout connected. Iago Rubio writes: True, but I think my point of view is still valid. No Windoze app opens a console for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Console window on Win32

2004-09-19 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Schumacher writes: When started from the MinGW (and probably Cygwin) bash, this doesn't happen. The output appears in the same console (rxvt window). Wow. Didn't know that. I seldom use MSYS and its rxvt. I assume rxvt's window isn't a console window, it's a normal graphics window

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