Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds
On 02/02/2011 02:32 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote: Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker? I'm afraid not; the next release of GIMP, GIMP 2.8, will not be quicker in this regard. The release after that, GIMP 3.0, will focus on running on GTK 3.0 and bringing high bit depths into the picture. 3.2 will focus on non-destructiveness Maybe in 3.4 we'll have time to solve this in a proper way. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Deleting multiple layers
On 01/19/2011 12:10 PM, Ofnuts wrote: On 01/19/2011 09:19 AM, Jeremy Nell wrote: No, you can't select multiple layers. I'm suggesting that there should be a way to do so (and delete them). The ability to select multiple layers opens a rather large can of worms. What happens when you paint with several layers selected? One way to deal with it would be to have two concepts, active layers and selected layers. There is only one active layer, but there can be several selected layers. When you paint, the active layer is affected. When you free-transform, the selected layers are affected. Whenever there is only one selected layer, that layer is also the active layer. On 01/19/2011 12:17 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote: The ability to select multiple layers opens a rather large can of worms. What happens when you paint with several layers selected? Then Gimp simply doesn't allow you to paint (because it doesn't know which layer you want). Simple. Not painting at all is not a very good solution if the user clearly acts like he wants to paint. It's better to make a best-guess; if it was wrong, well then the user have to be more specific. At least we tried our best. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16 bit Handling
On 11/04/2010 02:53 AM, TomBrooklyn wrote: When will GIMP be able to handle 16 bit (per channel) photo files? I'd guess a nightly build will have this capability in 1 - 2.5 years But no one knows, because we have not scheduled this work yet, we only know it is important and that we want it in the next stable release after 2.8 / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Nightly GIMP, GEGL, babl tarball builds ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Separate+ 0.5.8-beta1
On 08/28/2010 11:28 AM, Yoshinori Yamakawa wrote: Hi, Beta1 of Separate+ 0.5.8 is available. Hi Yamakawa-san What do you think about getting this plug-in into upstream GIMP for GIMP 2.8? Thanks in advance for your comment on this. Best wishes, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Free select tool in 2.6
On 07/19/2010 10:48 AM, Jeffery Small wrote: I recently upgraded from Gimp 2.4.3 to 2.6.8. The free select tool has changed to allow polygon edges and this also now requires that the stop point be extremely close to the start point in order to close the area when dragging the cursor. Is there a way to re-establish the old behavior so that holding down the left mouse button and dragging the cursor to define a region will automatically close when the mouse button is released? There is no mention of this in the manual. Hi There currently is no way to do this, but note that you can press Return to close a pending free selection, so you can replace 1. Drag and release with 1. Drag and release 2. Press Return HTH, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16-bit - why the long delay?
On 07/05/2010 12:23 PM, Claus Cyrny wrote: Hi all, after this has first been announced, I think, in 2002 (!), I wonder why 16-bit/channel has still not been implemented. Two years ago (or something like this) I read that 16-bit would be available in 2.6, but now someone stated that it would probably take a few more years (!). IMHO, 16-bit should be right on top of the list of priorities, now that GEGL has been implemented--at least it's definitely more important than, say yet another new icon set for Gimp. And anti-aliasing could also be improved. Programs such as Krita (I'm using Ubuntu) have much better anti-aliasing. I really enjoy working with the Gimp (currently 2.6.8), but especially 16-bit is really long overdue. We know it's long overdue and we know it sucks that we don't have higher bit depths yet. If we would have done higher bit depths before the 2.6 and 2.8 UI changes however, we would have received a lot of criticism for a useless UI instead. As soon as 2.8 is out, we are ready to introduce support for higher bit depths. GIMP 2.8 is currently scheduled for arrival late 2010. Maybe there will be a GIMP 2.9 development snapshot with support for higher bit depths half a year or so after that. The best way you can help with getting high bit depths support in GIMP is help us get 2.8 out, which basically boils down to helping us fix remaining bugs on the 2.8 milestone: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=GIMPbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDtarget_milestone=2.8 Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration
On 06/21/2010 05:16 PM, Steve VanSlyck wrote: My biggest frustration with GIMP is the complete lack of a general object selection tool. Not having an arrow tool is counter intuitive to the way we've been taught since the Faraday saw the first semiconductor claw its way into visibility in 1833. There is a specification for such a tool: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Transformation_tool_specification Someone just needs to write the code. We won't have time to do that for 2.8 though. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word on availability? When it's ready is the best you can get :) There is more to say. Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths. Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy 8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years. Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote: And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace of development. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On 06/20/2010 06:45 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:29 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote: Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?) before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix. It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It is definitely not trivial to fix this. Doing it for XCF would be enough, especially with the new Save and Export separation we do. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!
On 05/23/2010 03:55 PM, Anna wrote: Right after that I turned off my computer Just to make sure: Did you turn it off by cutting power, or did you turn it off in a proper/nice way? / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fw: Re: toolbox
On 04/29/2010 04:00 AM, Steve VanSlyck wrote: Is there no way to dock these darn things onto the main drawing window? (When I minimize an app I want the whole think gone, not just the subwindow I'm working on. Not in 2.6, but in 2.8 there will be a single-window mode. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] toolbox
On 04/29/2010 12:05 AM, Thomas Hart wrote: Using Windows 7 with Gimp 2.6.8 I can't hide the toolbox. If I click on the x-box the entire app closes. I can't see anything in Preferences. ??? Thomas J. Hart That's how GIMP 2.6 works. In GIMP 2.8 you will be able to close the toolbox. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Open a file r/o
On 03/24/2010 11:03 PM, Lennart Svensson wrote: Sven Neumann wrote, On 2010-03-23 21:38: On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 14:19 +0100, Lennart Svensson wrote: When you start gimp from the promptline you got the Application Options: -a, --as-newOpen images as new Why is this not available (as a button) when you open a file inside gimp ? It is considered useful for applications that want to send images to GIMP by means of opening them from a temporary location. We haven't seen any potential use for it in the user interface so far. Sven This button should inhibit the possibility to save the file during editing and destroy the original file. Same as the command line option -a. There are plenty of other strategies you can use * Only open copies of files * Version control your files * When you discover you overwrote a file, if possible, undo to the initial state of the image and resave Having a button as you propose is not an elegant solution to the problem you are trying to solve. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to keep toolbox and Layer, channel box docked to the main window? Minimize-all-at-one?
On 03/23/2010 12:58 PM, BenXS wrote: Ok, thank you. When will be v2.8 (=with single-window-mode) roughly released? Current estimate is Decemeber 2010 / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to switch menu language?
On 03/20/2010 11:00 PM, BenXS wrote: Ok, currently english is my main menu language of Gimp. But occasionally other people use my computer and I want to switch to another language (e.g. german or russian). Where exactly (!) can I switch the menu language? I found no entry in preferences? For 2.6, follow these instructions: http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-fire-up.html#gimp-concepts-running-language GIMP from git master have a setting in Preferences for this. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to keep toolbox and Layer, channel box docked to the main window? Minimize-all-at-one?
On 03/20/2010 11:06 PM, BenXS wrote: Currently when I move the main window of Gimp (under WinXP) then the two small windows at the side Toolbox and Layer,Channel... stay at their places on the desktop. Is there a way to define them as docked. In other words: Whenever the main window is moved they should be moved as well. No, not in GIMP 2.6, but with the single-window mode in 2.8 you'll be able to get that behaviour. Similarly when I minimize the main window the sub-windows remain visible. Is there a settings which (automatically) minimizes all windows when I minimize the main window? There is code in GIMP that does that, but it doesn't work 100% always on Windows unfortunately. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ GIMP 2.8 development still under control ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp
2010/3/11 bossyph...@netscape.com: When I try to save a picture I have worked on it always tells me I'm not authorized to save it. How do I become authorized so I can save my edited photos? Can it be that you are running GIMP from a read-only device, and it defaults to save in a folder on the read-only device? What if you try to save in your home folder? Where exactly did you get GIMP from? / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Enlarge Canvas: Is there a way to do it by dragging? Could/Should there be?
On 03/11/2010 04:57 PM, Jay Smith wrote: It just occurred to me that it would be really handy to be able to enlarge the _canvas_ by dragging. Hi This is the wrong forum, you should be on the gimp-developer mailing list. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Multi-column dock windows and 2.8 schedule ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ?? Status of remembering Layers setting for Canvas Resizing -- in most recent version
2010/3/10 yahvuu yah...@gmail.com: Hi, Jay Smith wrote: I believe that this setting should be remembered a) during the session of editing an image; b) during all sessions editing all images; and c) between sessions of shutting down and restarting Gimp. It seems to me that there are quite a few of these situations in Gimp. Another point of view: Each of these dialog options points at a potential interaction problem. If the dialog remembers an option, the user also has to remember that option. In general, this amounts to additional cognitive burden to keep the mental model in sync with the application state. Hi yahvuu Hmm I don't understand, how would there be additional cognitive burden on users if a dialog remembers a setting across invocations? Or do you mean that the setting itself is additional cognitive burden? If so, then I agree. The more options we can get rid of, the better. BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ?? Status of remembering Layers setting for Canvas Resizing -- in most recent version
On 03/09/2010 11:15 PM, Jay Smith wrote: It seems to me to be more useful to remember what the user does rather than some setting that the user never uses. Hi, Absolutely. This isn't controversial. Now all that is missing is a patch. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Multi-column dock windows and 2.8 schedule ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much
BGP wrote: No other program on my machine locks up except gimp. How can I fix this? Hi! By figuring out the step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the problems and then file bug reports to bugs.gimp.org so the problems can be fixed Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much
BGP wrote: Gimp locks up too often on my computer. It just stops working and the screen turns gray and then the entire computer stops responding to commands so I can only shut down by pushing the power button and rebooting. No other program on my machine locks up except gimp. How can I fix this? Actually, it sounds like you're out of RAM and your computer starts using the disk. This happens if you work with large images and/or have a small amount of RAM. You might want to tweak the tile cache: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-setup-tile-cache.html / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much
BGP wrote: 1G of ram is too small for a 4k file? No, so in that case, figure out a step-by-step instruction on how to reproduce the problem you are having. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cut out?
BGP wrote: I have an image that I want to cut a part out of to use as a separate image. The shape of the area I want to cut out and use is irregular. How can I cleanly cut out that part and copy it as a seperate image? Select the part you want to copy, then Edit - Copy, then Edit - Paste as - New Image To select irregular shapes, try the Free Select Tool and the quick mask. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Multi-column dock windows and 2.8 schedule ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop
doug wrote: Most people thinks having two different menubars in one application is insane. The small amount of people that thinks it is a good idea will have to maintain code for that themselves, sorry. In a few months' time anybody wanting to look up XXX or YYY in the archives is going to miss them if they're all mixed up under this one thread GIMP vs Photoshop. And they will probably also look in the gimp-developer archives rather than the gimp-user archives, so we should move any further discussion there. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
Ken Warner wrote: Well, I've experienced the same. When I close the tool window, GIMP exits. Really a pisser This is fixed in git master and will be further polished for GIMP 2.8 / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
Ken Warner wrote: Yeah, I hate that too. What's the point of having a floating window if you can never bring it to the top of the stack? Edit - Preferences - Window Management, change the toolbox and dock hints to 'Normal window' / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
Ken Warner wrote: Thanks... Much better. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe because I didn't think there was three different kinds of windows. Do we really need three different kinds of windows? I'm just asking Since we removed the menu from the toolbox for GIMP 2.6, we don't. In git master this is fixed, the setting is not separate for the toolbox and other docks, it's a single setting shared for both the dock window with the toolbox and the other dock windows. But I think we need to keep the setting we have. Some people prefer it the way you do, they want their image windows to hide docks, while others don't want the docks to be hidden. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
Programmer In Training wrote: Then the old behavior from 2.4 should be made optional, or at least a reasonable facsimile. Most people thinks having two different menubars in one application is insane. The small amount of people that thinks it is a good idea will have to maintain code for that themselves, sorry. Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
Michael J. Hammel wrote: For example, they've responded to requests for a single window mode from the Windows user community by adding it to development for 2.8. We Linux users don't need this so the developers are making this configurable. This is a common misconception. The single-window mode is just as much for Linux users as it is for Windows users. It is in many ways my own itch I am scratching: I run Linux but hate to manage windows and/or workspaces, and single-window mode will fix this for me. Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp copy/pasted layer has selection around it
gordon13 wrote: Aaah right! Thanks for that. Its really anoying, I dont know why we need boundaries like that.. We don't, which is why we will make layer boundaries automatically managed when we migrate to GEGL. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Is this a bug? Setting image w/corrupted icc profile to sRGB; plugin dies
Jay Smith wrote: I was attempting to contribute and share and experience and information. I infer from your response that I have been instructed to think twice before trying to get involved again. Hi, You seem like a nice guy with a healthy attitude, so it would be a shame if this would end up as your only contribution to GIMP. I encourage you to file a bug report so that it is possible to reproduce the problematic behavior and so that we can track progress in dealing with this. The address http://bugs.gimp.org/ redirects to GIMP's bugzill, which right now seems to be done. Thanks and regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Reducing UI clutter, docking bars removed ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
Flyer0101 wrote: Hi, this is my first post, anyway everytime i open gimp it crashes or does not respond i have even tried older versions of gimp my OS is Windows 7 64 - bit and specs are 4GB RAM 2.9 Duel Core so i don't no why it isn't working. One common cause of this is that you have large amounts of data, try starting with an empty GIMP2_DIRECTORY. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Reducing UI clutter, docking bars removed ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Users - getting colors to match.
D Dziedzic wrote: Hi: Color management is device specific through ICC profiles. Hi Dziedzic I expressed myself a bit clumsy. What I tried to say is that the _concepts_ of color management is not GIMP specific. Before one learns how color management works in a particular program, one needs to understand color management in general. If tessanne already know about color management in general and were only after information on how to perform color management in GIMP, I apologize. So the question is: Will the Gimp get serious about color management as it expands into the 16 bit arena or miss the serious color management boat all together? Proper color management is essential to the high-end photo manipulation program that GIMP wants to be, so yes, GIMP takes color management seriously. We are not completely there yet, but we strive to be. Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.7 Install on Centos
On 11/07/2009 09:41 AM, Greg S. wrote: *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.22.2, but GLIB (2.12.3) *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, Looks like you didn't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it needs to be set during configure-time since configure links a test-program / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] getting colors to match.
On 10/31/2009 11:13 PM, tess anne wrote: I'm trying to get a print out (onto paper) that matches, in color an original photo that i scanned. Have you looked into doing proper color management with color profiles? / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] getting colors to match.
On 11/01/2009 08:52 AM, tessanne wrote: Have you looked into doing proper color management with color profiles? / Martin how do I do this... I am a beginner at gimp! tessanne Color management is not program or device specific, to start you need to learn about color management in general. Googling on color management and reading the first few hits would be a good start. Next could be to buy a book on the subject. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] hi
On 09/30/2009 11:04 PM, TREY Mcatt wrote: I would like to stop receiveing the gimp e-mail's. Thanks Then why don't you unsubscribe? Link can be found at the bottom of the mails / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bits per channel
On 09/29/2009 03:36 AM, Phil Labonte wrote: Hello, I have looked online on the Gimp site and I am not clear if Gimp supports 16 or 24 or 32 bit images? Can someone point me to the correct answer for Gimp 2.6.7 Hi GIMP 2.6 does not and GIMP 2.8 will not work with higher than 8 bits-per-channel images. GIMP 2.10/3.0 will. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes
On 09/09/2009 07:45 PM, James B. wrote: With an opened photo, the filters section runs ok. However, tools and colors crashes Gimp with a Windows message that the program has stopped working. Downloaded/installed Gimp 2 times with same problem. Start gimp up, create a new blank image, then select something from the colors menu and it should work from then on. u just have to keep doing this everytime u start gimp. The GIMP 2.6.6 installer was corrupt, the GIMP 2.6.7 installer has this problem fixed. If you install GIMP 2.6.7, you should not get these crashes anymore. Is it 2.6.7 you are seeing these crashes in? / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A non-tool selection...
On 09/04/2009 08:27 AM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: On 2009-08-28, Greg Chapman gregtu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I find it annoying that there appears to be no selection tool that turns off all tools. I am confused by this feature request. The GIMP is an image editing package not an image display package. Wrong. GIMP is a package for whatever the *USER* decides it is going to use GIMP for. And an absence of a convenient non-destructive tool is a major misfeature. Whether the absence of such a tool is a misfeature has to be argued from a product vision [1] perspective. That is, if having such a tool would help us fulfill our product vision, we should add it. / Martin [1] http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision -- My GIMP Blog (new post 0 days ago): http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Installing 2.6.7 in Ubuntu
On 08/30/2009 06:56 PM, Jozef Legény wrote: Please consider that Gimp 2.6.7 is a developpement version and as such has no place in Ubuntu's repositories. You got it wrong, GIMP 2.7.0 is unstable, GIMP 2.6.7 is stable / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A non-tool selection...
On 08/29/2009 12:58 AM, zed wrote: As a very new user of the Gimp, I find it annoying that there appears to be no selection tool that turns off all tools. I am thinking of a package like Inscape, where the default is that when loaded no tool is selected and one has to make a selection before anything happens. Is there such a tool in the Gimp? If there is, please will someone tell me how to select it, 'cos I just cannot find it? There currently isn't, but the transform tool will be pretty similar to the default Inkscape tool: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Transformation_tool_specification / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] how to use layers
On 08/25/2009 07:23 PM, thomas w. wrote: I've read the documentation several times and every tutorial I could get my hands on, but I still can't make any sense out of how to properly use layers.. For example, I want to merge two pictures, by taking some regions from one picture and some from another. Hi, This seems like the first thing you need to grasp about layers: layers are not supposed to be merged, the whole point of layers is that they allow you to divide an image into several independent parts. Instead of merging, you could add a layer mask to the top-most layer and get rid of the parts you don't want using the mask. It's so tragic that after all these years, GIMP's user interface has seen no improvement. I had hoped that at least the documentation would be useful. GIMP development happens slowly but steadily. Being completely ignorant about the efforts that have been made to improve the GIMP UI lately is a good way to demotivate further work to be done. Just have some patience, or better, help us improve GIMP instead of complaining. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Opening huge images
On 08/22/2009 07:40 AM, M. Bashir Al-Noimi wrote: Hi All, I'm working on NLP project so I've to use huge TIFF images (12*12 px) but I can't do open or create them by GIMP! GIMP should be able to handle such large images, what happens if you try? Due to constant swapping of memory to and from disk editing will be very slow, but it should work. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers
On 08/12/2009 04:21 PM, David Gowers wrote: btw, martin nordholts is doing some great work on layer trees presently and in the last few months.. they are shaping up well. You are confusing me with another M.N. It is Michael Natterer that has been doing great work recently on preparing for layer groups / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GELG in GIMP 2.6.6 for Windows
On 08/12/2009 04:37 PM, J Figueroa G wrote: I have the 2.6.6 and when I work this filter, not work fine and close the program. I know that in another old versions the GELG work so good. Tutorial Link (english): http://www.flickr.com/groups/gimpusers/discuss/72157619079536887/ Tutorial Link (spanish): http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddqdn9jz_8335d6vkdf Someone have an answer for this BUG. TY so much. There is a known problem with the GIMP 2.6.6 installer, the GIMP 2.6.7 installer will work properly. Until then, I recomend the GIMP 2.6.4 installer. AFAIK the GIMP 2.6.5 installer is also broken. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Layer Style
On 08/10/2009 01:55 AM, Robert N. Lott III wrote: Are there still plans to implement Layer Styles? Yes, we can't call GIMP high-end without such a feature. It is impossible to say when we will have it implemented, but we are constantly working towards it. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem
On 08/06/2009 07:55 AM, julien wrote: Hi, glib and gtk-related .pc files are in /usr/lib/pkgconfig. In /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig I have babl.pc, gegl.pc, gio-2.0.pc, gio-unix-2.0.pc, glib-2.0.pc but no gtk.pc, probably because it is not installed yet? I ran PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig export PKG_CONFIG_PATH and still I have this damned eroor on 'make': PKG_CONFIG_PATH is a configure time environment variable. make does not care about PKG_CONFIG_PATH. You need to reconfigure with PKG_CONFIG_PATH and probabl LD_LIBRARY_PATH set (but again, note that LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not needed when later running the built software due to libtool's use of rpaths. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem
On 08/05/2009 11:54 AM, Doug wrote: Look in /usr/lib/pkconfig and /usr/local/lib/pkconfig and check where various glib- and gtk-related .pc files are located. You may well need both pkconfig folders. Then PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkconfig:/usr/lib/pkconfig; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH; ./configure You should be able to compile but you may not be able to run, because the program can't find this or that library which you know you have - you get a message saying couldn't find library lib..so. Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH may avoid that happening, but quite often it doesn't. Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH is only necessary at configure time. After that it is not necessary since libtool sets the necessary rpaths of the binaries it builds, at least for the babl/GLib/GTK+/GEGL/GIMP stack. And why use a prefix that requires root write privileges? Instead of manually setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, let configure do that. Just put this in /home/user/dev/share/config.site: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH and invoke ./autogen.sh or configure with --prefix=/home/user/dev. By having config.site there is no need to keep PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH globally, and automatic reconfiguration when making after e.g. configure.in/ac changes works without issues. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please ,check this image
On 08/01/2009 01:05 PM, photocomix wrote: i never noticed a similar bug, even if i used Gimp to save as copy thousands of jpeg, and i would never believed this possible, but i have to face evidence to the point image dimensions: 90x116 Size: 547KB And what is really weird is that seems impossible , re-saving from gimp as jpg reduce the file size...even at quality 1 ( !!) i can't shrink it The JPEG has an embedded ICC color profile which GIMP ignores since it's a CMYK profile, but it keeps it around anyway and writes it to the JPEG if you resave it. To see the size of the attached color profile, first extract it: $ exiftool -icc_profile -b -w icc lightbulb.jpg Then look at how big it (and the image) is: $ du -hb lightbulb.* which gives the output 557168 lightbulb.icc 560484 lightbulb.jpg / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem
On 08/01/2009 08:44 PM, julien wrote: Hi, I am trying to install gtk+-2.16.5 from sources under openSuse-11.0, (before installing unstable GIMP for UI translation). Configure gives no error message. Running make gives this error: /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_poll' I can't find how to resolve this problem. I'd be grateful for any help. Looks like you're not linking against the proper GLib library, make sure to setup PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH at configure time so that the right dependencies are found preferably through the use of config.site. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please ,check this image
On 08/01/2009 09:11 PM, photocomix wrote: @ David Perhaps it should also mention the size of the profile will be nice,as will be useful a option a option to discard it.(as Exif data that occupy much less space may be discarded)..i mean a option from the Save (or if you prefer the term Export)dialog Or similar issues are too rare to require changes ? To me, keeping the CMYK profile around and writing it to an RGB jpeg does not make sense; I don't think GIMP does the right thing here. Showing the size of the color profile would be informative, but only a workaround to the problem we're seeing here. I don't want to spend time to patch things here and there with regards to color management though. We need a specification on how color profiles should be managed on a bigger scale, otherwise we'll end up with an inconsistent program. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP
With some help from Jernej I have now been able too look into this problem. It would be of great help if people with crashes when doing: 1. Start GIMP 2. Create new default image 3. Tools - GEGL Operation... could try to move C:\Program Files (x86)\GIMP-2.0\lib\gegl-0.0\load-buffer.dll into a temporary dir, just so that GEGL does not pick up load-buffer.dll when starting. On my tests on Vista SP2, removing this GEGL operation from the operations GEGL loads gets rid of this particular crash, and I suspect this will get rid of this particular crash on XP systems as well. If anyone is able to confirm that removing/moving load-buffer.dll fixes the above crash, please let me know and report what version of Windows you are using. Thanks, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 09:35 PM, John Culleton wrote: On Sunday 19 July 2009 05:13:06 am you wrote: On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't want that. A library shared between many apps will have much more development and maintenance than a library only used by a single app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by other projects. / Martin I look at it from the point of view of the user, who just wants to install the program and get it running on his/her machine. If you just want to install gimp and run it, use the package manager that comes with your distro. By nature, building software can be quite complicated and is not intended for normal users. Also, please keep the discussion on-list. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 11:20 PM, John Culleton wrote: I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the tarball. What is so problematic about fetching the libs from ftp.gimp.org? If you suggest we should have the actual babl and GEGL code in the GIMP tarball, this is a bad idea. babl and GEGL are version controlled in different git repos, and it is not an option to version control them in the GIMP repo. They are separate, self-contained libraries. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 11:47 PM, John Culleton wrote: The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what should be included IMO. There is no version of GEGL that matches a given version of GIMP. GEGL is a library with an API (currently somewhat unstable due to immatureness of the library, but this is beside the point) that is independent of GIMP. Distributing GEGL in GIMP would imply that GEGL can not be bugfixed as maintainted separately, and this is wrong. If e.g. Slackware can prepackage Gimp with all the required libraries it seems to me that the Gimp folks could do the same. Nothing prevents you from stepping up and becoming part of the GIMP folks so to speak and do Slackware packaging. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't want that. A library shared between many apps will have much more development and maintenance than a library only used by a single app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by other projects. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 04:58 AM, Owen wrote: if you built babl and gegl from scratch, no problems, but sounds like you might be using Ubuntu or fedora. So look in you package manager for things like gegl-dev and babl-dev If he is trying to build git master then the packages provided by his distro will not work since he basically needs git master of babl and GEGL too. If you built babl and gegl in some non standard directory, you need to tell the system where to find them, hence; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig There is method to deal with building for non-standard prefixes that is superior to manually managing the environment variables, and this method is config.site. Put this in the file /home/user/dev/share/config.site: # for development: export CFLAGS=-g -O0 export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This file will then be sourced by configure whenever it is invoked with the prefix /home/user/dev, so assuming you have all build dependencies, all you have to do to build babl, GEGL and GIMP is to clone all the repos from git://git.gnome.org/project and then do ./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/user/dev make make install in all of them, in that order. Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make and all dependencies will be processed properly with the right env vars set. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make That should of course be make make install / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 11:39 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make That should of course be make make install / Martin I should also mention that to run your fresh build of GIMP you don't need to setup any env vars at all since libtool have setup the rpaths in the binaries, so just doing /home/user/dev/bin/gimp-2.7 without messing with environment variables will launch GIMP 2.7. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote: On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] You need to specify the project, try cd ~/source git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 02:05 AM, Greg S. wrote: I have all the repos from git for babl, gegl gimp. I have run ./configure and still configure can't find babl. What do I do next. This is driving me nuts. /Greg You are supposed to use ./autogen.sh, not ./configure. Calm down adn read my instructions again: http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2009-July/015313.html / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP
On 07/15/2009 09:57 AM, John wrote: Using Gimp 2.6.6 on XP SP3 and all current updates. When attempting at open the GEGL dialog, Gimp crashes. Anything else that I try works just fine (so far). Is this known? Is there a work around? Gimp 2.6.4 did not crash. GIMP 2.6.6 has had really bad stability on Windows and no one knows why. Hopefully it will disappear as quickly in 2.6.7 as it appeared in 2.6.6. Most of the bug reports have not been about GEGL crashing though but the color tools, there have been a lot of duplicates of this bug: Bug 577581 – Crashes when using any colors tool/functionBug 577581 – Crashes when using any colors tool/function http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577581 / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Crashes in GIMP 2.6.6
On 07/04/2009 06:33 AM, John Coppens wrote: I recompiled a new version of Gimp (still 2.6.6) and the error remains. But now I can get a backtrace: It's not much, but it might help. Is this some error of mine, or should I submit this as a bug report? Yes please, submit a bug report: bugs.gimp.org Be sure to specify the GTK+ version you use, and also step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the problem / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes
G J J wrote: I hjave not tested extensively. but so far, yes ** This is still very interesting, does GIMP crash for you when you use color tools if you don't run as admin? I.e. is running as admin a workaround for the frequently reported color tool crash problem?: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577581 Best regards, Martin Excellent, CCing gegl-developer. Jernej, any clues of why this might be? / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Green Stripes On Tools?
STINGER wibblywobblyteapot.co.uk wrote: If I use the paths tool and drag to move I get a horrible green mess of breadcrumbs where the tool has been. Looks like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421466 The cause is a driver problem, the workaround is to add (xor-color (color-rgb 1.0 1.0 1.0)) to your gimprc / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Features
Asif Lodhi wrote: Hi, IIRC, in one or more earlier posts to this list, the Gimp people said that 2.6 would have enhanced color support (CYMK, etc???) and non-destructive layer work functionality, etc. Has this been implemented in 2.6? Hi, you can read about the new features in GIMP 2.6 compared to GIMP 2.4 here: http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html There were no significant improvements for CMYK and non-destructive layer tweaking in 2.6. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Lost dialogues for clone tools
Simon Lowen wrote: When I start the clone tool the dialogue box in the panel is missing. This is the box that allows the adjustments of the clone tool and the way it interacts with the image. It had sat in the portion that says You can drop dockable dialogs here, but I remember closing this area accidently. Just resize the toolbox, that will expose that area. Then you can drag any dockables to that area that you like. In your case, you want the Tool Options dockable. Refer to http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-usage.html and the sections linked to. BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [GSoC] (Almost) final slot count, final project ranking
Leon Brooks wrote: On Tuesday 00:04:41 Martin Nordholts wrote: Let's have this as a base for discussion. My top would be Brush Dynamics, followed by Dynamic Resampler. I should add that I didn't sort the projects in any particular order in my list - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering
Brian Weese wrote: I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP. The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the file I am working on. I usually have the layers and brush dialogs open while I'm working on a file. I could increase the screen resolution but it makes the text so tiny... I have been able to work around it for now, but it is really annoying. Hi You can change the dock window hints in Edit - Preferences - Window Managment to Normal window if you don't want them as utility windows. Note that you can toggle visibility of docks with the Tab key. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16-bit/CMYK roadmap?
Claus Cyrny wrote: Hi, after following the thread on printing out of the Gimp, I wonder when 16-bit/CMYK is supposed to be implemented in the Gimp? There is no fixed date set. Work is ongoing. It is impossible to say when it will be done. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] color sampler
norman wrote: Is there an equivalent in GIMP to the Color Sampler tool in Photoshop, please? What does that tool do? - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] color sampler
norman wrote: What does that tool do? This has come directly to me so I assume you only copied it to the list. That means the list will not see my reply. I will quote what I see in a book I have:- With the Color Sampler tool active, clicking in your image attaches up to four samplers. These four Color Samplers can be used to measure and track shadows, mid tones, highlights and a fourth tone of your choice. While you are actively adjusting tonal values the color samplers provide a before and after readout in the Info palette. It seems to be a bit like the Eyedropper but more so. Norman That's what the Reply to All button in your mail client is for. The Sample Points should give roughly what you want: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-sample-point-dialog.html - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Change ruler to inches.
Carusoswi wrote: I had her email me the xcf file which I opened in GIMP 2.6 on my machine. We constructed the template with the rulers showing inches, but on my machine, they are showing something else (I don't know what). Hi The unit of the rulers is the same as the unit in the bottom of the image window, in the left part of the statusbar. The unit you used to display the image is not saved to the file, so when you open the file on another computer (or the same computer) the unit of the window will default to pixels. One could argue that the unit used to display the file should be saved, but it is not trivial to solve since one image can be shown using different units in different image windows. In any case, to show the rulers in inches on your machine, just change the unit in the statusbar to inches. BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Where did Gimps menu's go?
Gene Heskett wrote: gimp is a 2.6, whatever Fedora 10 is shipping. I hadn't run it since upgrading to F10 from F8, and I can't find the xsane linkage or anything. The tools menu looks like it has some empty space where those menu items used to be. How do I get them back usable. Hi The toolbox menu is gone, refer to release notes for more info: http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html You can find XSane in File - Create - XSane - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem getting the thing to work
Red Green wrote: I am having an EXTREME AMOUNT OF TROUBLE getting this stupid thing to work. 1 I downloaded version 2.6.5 and opened it. It wouldn't run. It gave an error box but did not explain what the error was. 2 Somebody told me they thought it was because I have windows 2000. The web page says windows 2000 is ok. 3 I downloaded 2.4.0 and it wouldn't work. 4 I downloaded 2.2.17 and it wouldn't work. Could I get some help with this?? What installer are you using? Exact link please. Exactly what does the error message you get say? - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Change Language in Gimp
OnyX wrote: Hello. In my iMac Leopard System Pereference - International. Swedish is set as first language. I like that. My Blender speak english. why not in Gimp. How kan I change to english. Does these instructions help? http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-fire-up.html#gimp-concepts-running-language - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP needs to close (!)
David Herman wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009, aether wrote: Hi, again. I appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with GIMP. I have checked everything you've suggested, and I find nothing at all. Abiword is another program that uses gtk, you could try installing that, if abiword works, give gimp one more try. The typical cause of these kind of problems is that there is a system-wide installation of GTK+ that is incompatible with your version of GIMP. GIMP comes with a compatible version of GTK+, but a system-wide install overrides that. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Method to add File Menu to Toolbox?
Pigeon wrote: So just forget about the idea of adding a file menu to the toolbox. The toolbox is not a normal toplevel window any longer, it's just a utility window for the active image window. Sven Sorry, I'm not going to forget about it. I want it back the way it was - with the File menu at the top of the toolbox window, the toolbox window behaving as a normal toplevel window, and no default blank image window. It's much more convenient that way. Hi Pigeon There is no way to get the menu back and no such way is going to be added. The only way to get a menu in the toolbox is to use GIMP 2.4. There were many reasons to get rid of the toolbox menu, one being that two menubars in one application is just plain wrong. For more reasoning behind the change, refer to the UI specification [1] BR, Martin [1] http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/No_image_open_specification ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: peter kostov wrote: Hi :) I am having this problem - when I slect Gegl Operation the Gegl operation toolbox appears as normal, but when I select anything from the drop list with operations the sliders and check boxes for inputting settings are missing. The tool is experimental so it might panic every once in a while. Don't you literally get any settings widget all all, for any operation you choose? Maybe you get them but the window does not resize it self to allow them to be showed? (there have been problems with that) - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: Before upgrading GIMP system wide to this version, I had an installation in my home dir, in which this tool worked fine! Thanks, Peter The version installed in your home dir might conflict with the system-wide version. Have you made sure this is not the case? If you haven't, try remove the version in your home dir. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: Hi Martin, done that already. Nothing from the previous installation in my home dir has left, even the .gimp-2.6 folder :) The error messages I get are showing clearly a problem with glib, I think, but my knowledge is limited :( Thanks again, Peter The problem is unlikely to be in GLib, it's just that GLib is used to output the errors. Please install debugging symbols and run with --g-fatal-warnings and report back with a stack trace of exactly where things are reported to go wrong. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: In the moment I select anything from the drop down list in 'Gegl operation' GIMP crashes with these messages and nothing more: Peter Run it in a debugger, refer to http://developer.gimp.org/faq.html#id2467309 - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: Or if I run GIMP so: pe...@peter ~ $ gimp --g-fatal-warnings --stack-trace-mode=always --debug-handlers GLib-GObject-WARNING **: type name `GimpGeglTool-gegl:box-blur-config' contains invalid characters aborting... gimp: terminated: Aborted #0 0xb7f4c424 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb75d0f9b in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #2 0xb75ef577 in g_on_error_stack_trace () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #3 0x0011 in ?? () #4 0x0b2ce178 in ?? () #5 0x0001 in ?? () #6 0x in ?? () (script-fu:1936): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error Peter That was not the entire stack trace was it? Make sure you have debugging information in the binary, i.e. make sure the -g flag is passed to gcc. Another thing that is interesting is what your output of 'ldd gimp' is. Does it only link against libraries you expect it to? - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders
peter kostov wrote: O.K. This time I did the backtrace properly, unfortunately there is nothing more. Below is the whole backtrace.log file from gdb: Please come to #gimp on irc.gnome.org as it is much more convenient to debug these kind of problems over IRC than over a mailing list. My nick is Enselic. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Ask for the release time of gimp 2.6.5
Aron wrote: Hi everyone, I want to know when will gimp 2.6.5 release Hi Sven usually makes a new release when the number of fixed bugs since the last release (which you can see in the ChangeLog [1]) becomes about the same amount as always for a bugfix release (which you can see in the NEWS file [2]). There are no specific dates to be given but you can try to extrapolate a release date by looking at dates for previous releases). - Martin [1] http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gimp/branches/gimp-2-6/ChangeLog?view=markup [2] http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-2.6.4-i686-setup.exe win-gimp
Jim Carlock wrote: One last thing I'll add to this... script-fu.exe - Entry Point Not Found The procedure entry point g_format_size_for_display could not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll. GIMP 2.6 comes with GTK+/GLib .dlls. If you have .dlls in a system wide directory such as C:\Windows\System32 these will however be picked up first. My guess is that you have GTK+/GLib .dlls in a system wide directory and GIMP does not end up using the GTK+/GLib DLLs it is supposed to. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2 questions about layers and selection
poppe wrote: Hello How can i select multiple layers at once? For example when i want to delete 10 layers at once. Where can i see what my selection size is? It tells nowhere what the selection size is after releasing mousebutton. Hi You can currently only select on layer at a time. The size of the selection can easily be seen in Windows - Dockable Dialogs - Pointer, but you need GIMP SVN trunk for that (i.e. it will be in GIMP 2.8). The enhancement request was: Bug 138101 – Pointer (Information) tab should display selection bounds http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138101 BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Key commands?
Al G. wrote: Hi, is there a way to use undo key command in GIMP? For some reason it does not work on my Mac (G5) Hi Maybe you have reassigned the keys? Look in Edit - Keyboard Shortcuts. You should also see the current keyboard shortcut next to the menu item under in the Edit menu. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem loading BMP; invalid BMP or bug in GIMP?
Roel Schroeven wrote: Hi, I have some BMP-files that GIMP doesn't load correctly; GIMP shows almost the whole image as transparent instead of the real image data. Only a small region is visible, and even that with partial transparency. The image doesn't contain any transparency though (I don't even think BMP supports transparency). Other image editors and viewers such as Irfanview and Paint.NET open the image correctly. I'm using GIMP 2.6.2 on Windows XP. If you want to see the image, get it at http://rschroev.fastmail.fm/radar-20081222T090636-00.bmp (5 MB) or http://rschroev.fastmail.fm/radar-20081222T090636-00.zip (854 kB). Should I report this as a bug? Or is the BMP maybe written in an invalid format? Hi If other editors are able to open the file it is not corrupt. (Maybe it is but the other loaders are then at least able to adjust for this.) Feel free to file a bug report and attach the BMP. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Method to add File Menu to Toolbox?
DJ wrote: Hi Gimp-user, With the recent version of The Gimp, the File Menu was removed from the Tool Box window, and now there are 2 windows at all times. When I want to open an image, do a screen capture, change The Gimp Preference, etc, I have to rummage around for a currently open image to access the File menu. These usually are minimized. Does anyone know of a way to get the File Menu back on the Toolbox, or to get the interface to work like it did in the past in version 2.2? Hi, You can't get the toolbox menu back, but you can press Tab to hide the Toolbox and any Dialogs, leaving you with only one window and a menu again, the empty image window. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Free select tool
dragon77 wrote: How do I remove this black stuff surrounding an image that appears when I try to cut out an image with free select tool to paste onto another picture? Make sure the layer has an alpha channel. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)
classiccars wrote: http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo of a car look like it is sitting on a mirror? I didn't do this one, someone else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the bottom of the car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the image on two different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like that. Any suggestions? Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken Hi The reflection image is a separate image, it cannot be created by mere transformation of the source image. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Menu problem
Song Zhiwei wrote: Is it a bug or not? It is a bug of course. I think this problem have been reported before but I can't recall if it was resolved. You should probably contact those that made the build for Mac you are using. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] My GIMP doesn't have Dialogs
Spunky341 wrote: I have GIMP for Mac and whenever I try to render I have to go to this one setting in Dialogs and I don't have that on my version of GIMP! PLEASE HELP ME In GIMP 2.6 the 'Dialogs' menu has been renamed to 'Windows', you should find what you need in there. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Puzzle about my version of gimp
Leonard Evens wrote: I recently upgraded my main computer to Fedora 9 from Fedora 7. When I brought gimp up and clicked on 'about' under Help, a window came up claiming it is gimp 2.4.1. But the package is designated 2-2.4.7, from which I conclude it is really gimp 2.4.7. Help - About is much more reliable than the package name. To find out for sure you can look in the NEWS file for 2.4 and try to reproduce bugs that only existed in one of the versions. Depending on what bugs you can reproduce, you can derive what version you have. Another way would be to install the source package of the gimp program package and look in the configure.in file, which has the version at the top. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Excellent, thanks! However, the more general question stands: do the Gimp devs take kindly to feature requests regarding the usability of Gimp's tools? Or should I not even bother and waste their time? The developers appreciate high quality usability feedback which should go to the gimp-developer mailing list. We don't like people to file enhancement request to the bug tracker before they have been discussed on the mailing list however. - Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
