Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Michael Costolo
--- Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a good video card that has solid support in XFree86? From what I am told, the best choice for Open Source drivers is ATI. The NVidia line is a better performer, and solid, but the drivers are binary-only. I don't believe that NVidia

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 5:12am, Michael Costolo wrote: I don't believe that NVidia only releases binary drivers. I distinctly recall compiling the drivers for my TNT2 card. These Open Source drivers were contributed by NVidia, but they are maintained by XFree, and their functionality and

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Michael Costolo
--- Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 5:12am, Michael Costolo wrote: I don't believe that NVidia only releases binary drivers. I distinctly recall compiling the drivers for my TNT2 card. These Open Source drivers were contributed by NVidia, but they are

Python magazine

2002-04-23 Thread Cole Tuininga
I know there's a couple of fellow python-heads on this list (Hi Bill!). I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://www.pyzine.com/ It's a (very) new magazine - heck, act now and you can get issue 1. 8) -- God help us, we're in the hands of engineers. - Ian Malcolm

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Michael Costolo hath spake thusly: --- Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 5:12am, Michael Costolo wrote: I don't believe that NVidia only releases binary drivers. I distinctly recall

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-23 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:48:27 EDT Benjamin Scott said: On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 2:15pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only exist within bash, then I wouldn't advocate their use if

Re: IRobot

2002-04-23 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 21 Apr 2002, at 10:44pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Speaking of um, er, Iced Tea, an completely unrelated to the subject of robots, I thought many people would get a kick out this:

Apple exposed as an agent of Satan

2002-04-23 Thread Rich Payne
So I usually don't send things like this around to the listbut I had a good laugh at this one. Now I'll admit to not being a big Apple fan, but this is something new http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24968.html --rdp -- Rich Payne http://talisman.mv.com

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: FWIW, IIRC you do not need to buy Athlon MP processors to use them in SMP configurations. You don't need to use Athlon MP chips for a SMP box, but you should. In order to make newer Athlon XP's do

Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But I feel better knowing that if my fan dies or my socket cracks, my CPU is likely to survive the ordeal. Which is why Alphas tend to have their heat sinks bolted on to the chip... Years ago, Intel laughed at us and our clunky heat sinks. Then, they created the 60 and

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-23 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At some point hitherto, Kevin D. Clark hath spake thusly: In general, the inner part of the loop is run in a sub-shell. Not exactly... it's more subtle even than that. For example: Yes, my language could have been a little tighter there. In

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-23 Thread Michael O'Donnell
This is a classic example of why I prefer doing actual script work in ksh and have my login shell as bash. Aren't you just saying that you prefer to stick with a familiar set of idiosyncracies for scripting purposes? * To

Re: Apple exposed as an agent of Satan

2002-04-23 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
I think it would be best to leave religious dicussion out of the context of this list unless of course we want to discuss vi vs. emacs. ;-) -Andy * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers [snip] The PC shows are strictly caveat emptor. You can and will find reputable vendors selling

Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:32 PM Subject: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers) Are we sufficiently confused yet? :-) BAH! It's easy! Just remember that DDR333 is

Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:49:44 - Rich C said: Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz) Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?

Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz) Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that? According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :) That's integer math. IIRC the actual clock speed is 166.66

Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz) Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that? According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :) Oh, well, if it's only 332 and *NOT* 333 as advertised, then I

Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers) On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:58 AM Subject: Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers) On the other hand, I've used high-quality boards with VIA chipsets that have never

Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
Would anyone be able to recommend any wireless equipment? What I am thinking of doing is taking my current ATT broadband feed that then runs into a Linksys Broadband router and then to my little network of PCs and somehow introduce the ability to connect another PC through a wireless connection.

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Ben Boulanger
I'm having success doing just that with the Linksys wireless router and a wireless card w/my work laptop when I bring it home. I have the linksys BEFW11 (or something like that.. it's the 4 port broadband router with wireless) and I use a linksys wireless card (though I don't believe you're

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
Ben, Thanks for the reply. Would you know if you could have two of these standalone units communicate with each other? I will check out the Linksys site. I was thinking that if I had two base stations talking with each other, I could just use any old nic connected by standard Ethernet

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Ben Boulanger
Yep, you sure can. I haven't felt like dropping the dough to try it, but definitely a cool idea. Particulary for creating the directional antennae at: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Ben, Thanks for the reply. Would you

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Alex Hewitt USG
I would suggest you look carefully at whichever wireless card you might consider. I have the LinkSys WPC-11 PCMCIA card in my laptop. I bought this card when it first came on the market. It has relatively poor range. There are newer versions of this same card. I've seen them with stickers that

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
Spotted this on the Linksys site, and called their support with some questions, http://www.linksys.com/products/plbridge.asp Since I will have a desktop and not a laptop at the other end, I think I might take this route. Range, through put, and interference would appear to not be an issue, which

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
The Linksys rep also stated that a pair (or more) of WAP11A models would do the wireless base station idea. On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 16:05, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Spotted this on the Linksys site, and called their support with some questions, http://www.linksys.com/products/plbridge.asp Since

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Ben Boulanger
Did they give you a timeframe as to when it's due out?? Last I checked this was vaporware. If it's out, care to share any of the info the rep gave ya? Pricing, etc..? Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Spotted this on the Linksys site, and called their support with some

RE: Apple exposed as an agent of Satan

2002-04-23 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
Some great quotes from the article: Apparently the Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers, but is instead based off an older, obsolete OS called BSD Unix BSD is obsolete, huh? If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you probably have these daemons on

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
He said it is out now, and should run about $150, and is available from anyplace that already sells Linksys products. On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 16:06, Ben Boulanger wrote: Did they give you a timeframe as to when it's due out?? Last I checked this was vaporware. If it's out, care to share any

RE: Apple exposed as an agent of Satan

2002-04-23 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 16:12, Tilly, Lawrence wrote: But here's my favorite: Darwin OS is released under an 'Open Source' license, which is just another name for Communism. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=offmode_w=onsite=members.truepath.comsubmit=Examine Yup, that site is

Wednesday Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread Fibre
Is there a meetign wednesday for MELBA? If so someone sould reply to this AND put something on gnhlug.org. What Time? Where? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 3:46pm, Alex Hewitt USG wrote: Even though WEP is considered a very weak standard, it's better than nothing. Some have argued that you are, in fact, better off with nothing, as WEP simply gives you a false sense of security. In my opinion, it depends mostly on what

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 23 Apr 2002, at 4:09pm, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: The Linksys rep also stated that a pair (or more) of WAP11A models would do the wireless base station idea. Yes. The LinkSys WAP11 models can function as Ethernet bridges. Great for crossing streets. :-) -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread Fibre
Is there a meetign wednesday for MELBA? If so someone sould reply to this AND put something on gnhlug.org. What Time? Where? Who's Comming? Any One Have A Topic? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Alex Hewitt USG
As I have personally found out the hard way, you should make sure all the security inside your firewall is as good as you can make it. I had a Win 2k box compromised despite having a certain amount of security and virus protection set up because another user inside our firewall opened an email

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
Found the Linksys PLEBR10 listed here, however the page states backorder on it, it is priced at $129. http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10321918loc=101queryType=comp * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 23 Apr 2002, at 4:35pm, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Despite what the rep stated, it still seems elusive to find. [HUGE SNIP] [ Self-Appointed Net.Cop Mode = ON ] You just quoted 142 lines of message, including signatures and footers, to add a *single line* of text. Please observe

Re: Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread Fibre
Oops major spelling mistakes ... ok Humm meeting* should* Is there a meetign wednesday for MELBA? If so someone sould reply to this AND put something on gnhlug.org. What Time? Where? Who's Comming? Any One Have A Topic? *

Re: Wireless

2002-04-23 Thread Robert Anderson
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:46:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Hewitt USG [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would suggest you look carefully at whichever wireless card you might consider. I have the LinkSys WPC-11 PCMCIA card in my laptop. I bought this card when it first came on the market. It has relatively poor

Re: Wednesday Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread Ben Boulanger
Heckle Ben?? I'm so glad there's more than one Ben here ;) On the other hand, I may change my name to Bem so that there's no confusion with who's being heckled :) On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: Wednesday Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:19:46 EDT Fibre said: Is there a meetign wednesday for MELBA? If so someone sould reply to this AND put something on gnhlug.org. What Time? Where? Yes, in theory

Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 12:24pm, Rich C wrote: The fact that VIA's implementation of the AGP specification is flawed ... I was not aware of this. Please elaborate. ... or their AC97 sound codec is worthless has nothing to do with the board manufacturer. Their cheap onboard sound is

RAMBUS (was: AMD vs Intel)

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 1:02pm, Rich C wrote: There is also the latency issue, which I have yet to have confirmed or denied to my satisfaction. There IS higher latency with RAMBUS ... I stated that poorly. What I should have said was that I have not seen an analysis of the latency issue

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 5:50am, Michael Costolo wrote: The BIOS that comes with the ABIT boards. I've seen it called SoftBIOS and SoftMENU. [...] http://www.ocaddiction.com/articles/howto/kt7abiostweakguide/index.shtml Ahh, okay. It is a BIOS Setup interface to CPU settings. Nice. The

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-23 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 11:00am, Michael O'Donnell wrote: This is a classic example of why I prefer doing actual script work in ksh and have my login shell as bash. Aren't you just saying that you prefer to stick with a familiar set of idiosyncracies for scripting purposes? Heh. That is

Re: Wednesday Meeting

2002-04-23 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly: I apologize for not being a little more organized this month. This new job thing has gotten in my way, and I've been quite distracted. Oh come on, I reminded you about this at the