Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
Arc, Thanks for the response! Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com writes: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? First, a disclaimer. I'm a complete newbie to both Python and Windows. So anything you know to be broken with the idea, I'm completely open to learning how to do differently :)

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Walter Mundt
Paul Lussier wrote: Also, the Cygwin version of python uses a normal UNIX-style path of /usr/bin/python, which makes it simpler to run the same python programs on both UNIX and Windows, which is one of my requirements. If you think going with the native Windows version of python is better

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
Thanks for the response, Walter! Walter Mundt em...@spamcop.net writes: For what it's worth, if you just associate .py files with a Python installation in C:\Python via the standard Windows mechanism for specifying what application loads a particular extension, it doesn't matter that the

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
Python downloads for windows are right on the website. Unless you have a pressing need to use the 3rd party cygwin version you should just download it from python.org If you're just starting out you should grab 3.0.1. It'll get you started right. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Lussier

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com writes: Python downloads for windows are right on the website. Unless you have a pressing need to use the 3rd party cygwin version you should just download it from python.org I'm not comfortable going with 3.x yet. We have vast amounts of legacy python from 2.x

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 10:08 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote: Thanks for the response, Walter! Walter Mundt em...@spamcop.net writes: For what it's worth, if you just associate .py files with a Python installation in C:\Python via the standard Windows mechanism for specifying what application

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: For what it's worth, if you just associate .py files with a Python installation in C:\Python via the standard Windows mechanism for specifying what application loads a particular extension ... You assume I have a clue

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because the Latest Release is Always Better(TM)! We all know that, right? ;-) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because the Latest Release is Always Better(TM)! We all know that, right? ;-) Re Py3, the

OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Hewitt_Tech
Recently I've noticed that both major overnight package delivery companies have been damaging packages. I've had 3 out of 4 computer cases rendered unusable and packages routinely arrive here (Manchester) with chunks missing out of them. For the most part my parts vendor does a great job of

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Drew Van Zandt
One package with liquid contents (agave nectar in plastic jugs) destroyed, then after writing me a note saying that, they returned the soggy box to the vendor claiming there was an address problem and it was undeliverable. Since about 5% of the agave nectar was delivered on the outside of a

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Hewitt_Tech hewitt_t...@comcast.net wrote: Recently I've noticed that both major overnight package delivery companies have been damaging packages. Other than the Recently part, your experience matches mine. Shipping eats boxes, but this isn't news. My

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:54:19 -0400 From: Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: Re Py3, the issue at hand is that the community has been planning Py3 for years and has agreed to move to it. This migration is like a slinky, and And by what authority do you claim to know the will of the community? Any new Python-based projects should be

[GNHLUG] Merrilug Meeting March 19th Canceled

2009-03-16 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Hi, I found out that Martha's Exchange Restaurant has a function on the second floor of the restaurant that night, so our normal meeting room is not available. Therefore I will have to reschedule my presentation on Making Fairly OK Videos with Kinko and Inkscape. I do not know when I will be

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: And by what authority do you claim to know the will of the community? Unless you're involved in the Python community under yet another monkier, why the hell are you even replying on this thread, much less arguing against me re:

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Raymond Cote
Arc Riley wrote: Any new Python-based projects should be Py3 based. It's self-defeating to do anything else. I'd be concerned about pushing new projects into yet unproven territory. As great as Python 3 is, there's still lots to be done. Still a lot of libraries that need to be updated to

Question about the ADF of a scanner.

2009-03-16 Thread Steven W. Orr
I just scored a free HP C6270A scanner with an automatic document feeder. Sane seems to talk to it just fine. I'm *almost* happy. The ADF seems to jam up. Is there something that I personally can do that's cost effective to fix the ADF or am I SOOL? TIA -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Raymond Cote rgac...@appropriatesolutions.com wrote: I'd be concerned about pushing new projects into yet unproven territory. Let's be clear here, Py3 isn't new territory. Python 3.0.0 was in alpha/beta for a long time and was released only after it was

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Michael Pelletier
The UPS hub in Nashua seems to be unusually bad, even for UPS. Check out the site http://www.unitedpackagesmashers.com/ Here's a package of mine from last year: http://www.aidoann.com/photos/ups/070913-tornbox.jpg My HP Laserjet 2605dtn was a near miss, too, a couple of years ago - the

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Alex Hewitt
Michael Pelletier wrote: The UPS hub in Nashua seems to be unusually bad, even for UPS. Check out the site http://www.unitedpackagesmashers.com/ Here's a package of mine from last year: http://www.aidoann.com/photos/ups/070913-tornbox.jpg My HP Laserjet 2605dtn was a near miss, too, a

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Alex Hewitt hewitt_t...@comcast.net wrote: I went with the other big shipper after all the broken stuff via Uninterruptible  Power Supply and they destroyed my package ... I've had all three of the big three (UPS, FDX, DHL) destroy plenty of stuff. (Of

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:13:11 -0400 From: Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com Unless you're involved in the Python community under yet another monkier, why the hell are you even replying on this thread, much less arguing against me re: Py3? Simply stated, I'm tired of listening to your claims

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:37 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Simply stated, I'm tired of listening to your claims about what *other* people think, believe, want, c. And simply stated, I'm tired of your trolling. Why Ben/etc continue to tolerate you on these lists I cannot fathom. If this

Re: Question about the ADF of a scanner.

2009-03-16 Thread Dan Jenkins
Steven W. Orr wrote: I just scored a free HP C6270A scanner with an automatic document feeder. Sane seems to talk to it just fine. I'm *almost* happy. The ADF seems to jam up. Is there something that I personally can do that's cost effective to fix the ADF or am I SOOL? I have had this

Re: OT? Shipping issues?

2009-03-16 Thread Dan Jenkins
Ben Scott wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Hewitt_Tech hewitt_t...@comcast.net wrote: Recently I've noticed that both major overnight package delivery companies have been damaging packages. Other than the Recently part, your experience matches mine. Shipping eats boxes,

Re: Question about the ADF of a scanner.

2009-03-16 Thread Michael ODonnell
feed rollers on some scanners and printers. Basically, they get glazed and cannot pull the paper. Cleaning the feed rollers helps sometimes. Typically I use alcohol to clean them and then, if I'm still having a problem, a very, very mild abrasive I'll second that and as an aside I'll

Re: Question about the ADF of a scanner.

2009-03-16 Thread Dan Jenkins
Michael ODonnell wrote: feed rollers on some scanners and printers. Basically, they get glazed and cannot pull the paper. Cleaning the feed rollers helps sometimes. Typically I use alcohol to clean them and then, if I'm still having a problem, a very, very mild abrasive I'll second