Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-19 Thread Tom Buskey
Short answer: You need to calculate the bitawatt (electricity to run the algorithm) costs vs the value of the coin. FWIW Google counts bitawatts. A 1% reduction in power/heat to run an algorithm saves them lots of $$$. As the computational complexity went up, the amount of electricity needed

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-18 Thread Jeffrey Creem
More people mining does not push price down as the difficulty adjusts (about every 2 weeks) automatically to keep the average rate of discovery of a block at 10 minutes. Also, GPU mining of bitcoin has not really been possible for a couple of years. You need custom ASICS. Cloud mining can be

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-18 Thread David Johnson
Recent article, however it doesn't get into the risks. There is clearly capital investment needed if you're going to be somewhat serious about it. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/an-idiots-guide-to-building-an-ethereum-mining-rig If it's worth it depends on both electricity cost

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-18 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
On 06/16/2017 06:12 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > Bitcoin initially did not require specialized hardware, but as new golden > hashes get harder to find, mining costs more > in electricity and depreciation without speciality gear (or a huge BITNET > running for free). If scarcity drives up BTC >

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-16 Thread Neil Schelly
I have a coworker who makes money mining. His strategy is to mine for the alternative currencies that are still comparatively easy to mine than BitCoin. Whatever value he earns there gets exchanged for value in BitCoin. From what I gather, he makes a decently steady side income from it, though I

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
Bitcoin did hit a peak value of $3,000 last week, so that would help the economics. My impression is that you need some edge in cost of bandwidth, electric power, or computer hardware for this to be an attractive business. Just tracking the blockchain can use enough resources to be annoying.

Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

2017-06-16 Thread Bill Ricker
Bitcoin initially did not require specialized hardware, but as new golden hashes get harder to find, mining costs more in electricity and depreciation without speciality gear (or a huge BITNET running for free). If scarcity drives up BTC value, maybe, but odds of finding one still declining as