Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Lussier
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed that sites I can get to both easily and quickly from work are completely unreachable from home. From Comcast's perspective, these sites seem to not even exist. Is this intentional censoring on Comcast's part, or just incompetance at maintaining a DNS

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Lussier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) writes: Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: XML is for people who don't understand Scheme. (not my quote, that just seems like such good flamewar fodder that I had to pass it along) There's nothing new under the sun. Each generation thinks they

XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Bill Ricker
XML is for people who don't understand Scheme. (not my quote, that just seems like such good flamewar fodder that I had to pass it along) There's nothing new under the sun. Each generation thinks they invented sex and fast square root algorithms. I've said for years, if LISP stands for Lots

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Run your own local DNS server with caching. You do have a server at home right? Or run a caching server on localhost. Linux and MacOSX can do it. Good point, don't know why I never thought of that. For that matter, I can also use the ones here at work

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really. That's interesting. I'm on Comcast (Dover, NH) and I haven't noticed any problems of that sort. Any pattern to the sites, that you can discern? Nope. The two I can remember of hand are: www.evangelicaloutpost.com[1] www.shamusyoung.com[2]

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and usesancient ENDIF syntax, as if syntax-aware editors couldn't handle closing-brace-match. I'm of two minds when it comes to this sort of thing. (Normally, I'm lucky to have one mind.) On the one hand, yes. On the other hand,

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: XML is for people who don't understand Scheme. (not my quote, that just seems like such good flamewar fodder that I had to pass it along) There's nothing new under the sun. Each generation thinks they invented sex and fast square root algorithms.

Two security discussions on the evening of the 16th

2006-11-14 Thread Ted Roche
The nice thing about MythTV is that you can record one program while watching another. Unfortunately, I haven't figure out how to do that in real-space, yet. I plan to attend Shawn O'Shea's presentation on VMWare at MerriLUG

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Tom Buskey
And on that note, can anyone recommend a decent set of DNS servers to point at instead of using Comcast's? Run your own local DNS server with caching. You do have a server at home right? Or run a caching server on localhost. Linux and MacOSX can do it. Point it at the root servers if you

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Kent Johnson
Paul Lussier wrote: Is there anyway we could foster this into a real discussion on XML, what it is, what it's used for, why it's good/bad/evil/sucks-rocks/better-than-sliced-bread ? About the only thing I know about XML is that it appears to be a markup language for Pirate Treasure Maps (you

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Paul Lussier writes: Is there anyway we could foster this into a real discussion on XML, what it is, what it's used for, why it's good/bad/evil/sucks-rocks/better-than-sliced-bread ? Well, everybody has their own view on the world. You need to understand where I stand before you understand

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed that sites I can get to both easily and quickly from work are completely unreachable from home. From Comcast's perspective, these sites seem to not even exist. Really. That's interesting. I'm on

Real Men use XML, was quote, was Google Earth...

2006-11-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Paul Lussier wrote: Is there anyway we could foster this into a real discussion on XML, what it is, what it's used for, why it's good/bad/evil/sucks-rocks/better-than-sliced-bread ? We can if we start it. A pocket summary sure to offend many and distort history a

Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread kenta
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Michael ODonnell wrote: I have no love for ComcCast - I'd drop them yesterday if I had any better (or even comparable) choices - That being said, does anyone have experiences with other residential high speed providers that are in the same price range as Comcast?

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 09:29 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote: And on that note, can anyone recommend a decent set of DNS servers to point at instead of using Comcast's? plug The company I work for (DynDNS) offers a pretty high quality recursive DNS service for $29.95/year. Here's a link to our

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Michael ODonnell
I have no love for ComcCast - I'd drop them yesterday if I had any better (or even comparable) choices - but I can't say that their DNS sucks any worse than anybody else's. They do fsck it up occasionally but (here in Chelmsford) it's working OK at the moment.

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Jeffry Smith
On 11/14/06, Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Lussier writes: Is there anyway we could foster this into a real discussion on XML, what it is, what it's used for, why it's good/bad/evil/sucks-rocks/better-than-sliced-bread ? Well, everybody has their own view on the world. You

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Nov 14th 2006 at 09:57 -0500, quoth Cole Tuininga: =On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 09:29 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote: = And on that note, can anyone recommend a decent set of DNS servers to = point at instead of using Comcast's? = =plug = =The company I work for (DynDNS) offers a pretty high

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. The two I can remember of hand are: www.evangelicaloutpost.com[1] www.shamusyoung.com[2] FWIW: I just ssh'ed into my home system and checked those two names against the two Comcast DNS servers present in my /etc/resolv.conf, and

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Travis Roy
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Michael ODonnell wrote: I have no love for ComcCast - I'd drop them yesterday if I had any better (or even comparable) choices - I use Earthlink for my cable service... It's from Comcast, and my bill actually comes from Comcast, but I get an Earthlink IP, Earthlink

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Thomas Charron
Brace yourself. I don't know the current status, but in the past, I know Comcast has intercepted all DNS queries, regardless or destination, and redirected them to their own. Thomas On 11/14/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed that sites I can get

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 11:25 -0500, kenta wrote: That being said, does anyone have experiences with other residential high speed providers that are in the same price range as Comcast? I've used Worldpath (http://www.worldpath.com) for home DSL for several years now and couldn't be happier. The

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another old quote -- every non-trivial application has a non-trivial subset of a Lisp interpretter (and/or Fortran library) embedded, but implemented badly. Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc,

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Nov 14th 2006 at 09:06 -0800, quoth Thomas Charron: = Brace yourself. I don't know the current status, but in the past, I know =Comcast has intercepted all DNS queries, regardless or destination, and =redirected them to their own. If they do that how can you tell?

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brace yourself. I don't know the current status, but in the past, I know Comcast has intercepted all DNS queries, regardless or destination, and redirected them to their own. FWIW, in my service area (Dover, NH), they do not appear to be

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 14, 2006, Steven W. Orr sent me the following: On Tuesday, Nov 14th 2006 at 09:06 -0800, quoth Thomas Charron: = Brace yourself. I don't know the current status, but in the past, I know =Comcast has intercepted all DNS queries, regardless or destination, and =redirected them to

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, kenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said, does anyone have experiences with other residential high speed providers that are in the same price range as Comcast? At that price range, your options are always going to be fairly limited. The best results I've gotten, looking

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Travis Roy
If I have a serious problem with the wireless feed at work, I can drive to the ISP's office in the next town, and beat the owner over the head with his radio. Just don't call first.. When I worked at the MediaOne NOC (under my horrible manager there) some guy called saying he was going to

Earthlink DNS (Was: Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?)

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Polhamus
Travis Roy wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Michael ODonnell wrote: I have no love for ComcCast - I'd drop them yesterday if I had any better (or even comparable) choices - I use Earthlink for my cable service... It's from Comcast, and my bill actually comes from Comcast, but I get an

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread kenta
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Travis Roy wrote: When I worked at the MediaOne NOC (under my horrible manager there) some guy called saying he was going to kill and/or beat one of the callcenter people (they worked upstairs). Now I remember why I paid you less than everyone else. GOOD TIMES. (-1

Re: Earthlink DNS (Was: Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?)

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Mark Polhamus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blogs.earthlink.net/2006/09/more_info_on_dead_domain_handl.php Earthlink says: ...this isn't something that you'll be able to get customer support help with... My response would then be: This isn't something you'll get my subscriber

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread kenta
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Ben Scott wrote: Both result in 'not found' errors from home: $ host www.evangelicaloutpost.com Host www.evangelicaloutpost.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL) Hmmm, SERVFAIL is more than just a simple not found, it means something is actively broken. I have seen nameservers

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those reverse to: 24.34.240.9 chlm2-pdns-tmp.chelmsfdrdc2.ma.boston.comcast.net. 24.34.241.9 chlm2-2dns-tmp.chelmsfdrdc2.ma.boston.comcast.net. 68.87.64.196 ns.inflow.pa.bo.comcast.net. Note the -tmp in those first two names. Meanwhile, I have

Fios. Was: Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Fred
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:25, kenta uttered thusly: I'd love to try Verzion's FiOS but they're not offering it in my part of Nashua. :( If anyone here has it, how is it? I'm also not sure how any local DSL providers are stacking up these days. Feedback is appreciated. -Kenta

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:12 -0500 Suppose this is version 1 of the protocol. Now suppose in version 2 of the protocol we want to add some more properties: foo colorblue/color height1.3m/height fav-dessertpie/fav-dessert

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:21:40 -0500 From: Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On November 14, 2006, Steven W. Orr sent me the following: On Tuesday, Nov 14th 2006 at 09:06 -0800, quoth Thomas Charron: = Brace yourself. I don't know the current status, but in the past, I know =Comcast has

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:22:05 -0500 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] One problem I did encounter in the past was that Adelphia was dropping UDP packets with a *source* port of 53. Any other source port was fine. Today's Internet is a weird place. :) /me is really looking forward to

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:26:32 -0500 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best results I've gotten, looking at the whole picture (price, performance, reliability, customer service, etc.) are with local ISPs doing fixed wireless. The major advantage is that by eliminating a Really?! I

Re: Comcast Alternatives? Was Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best results I've gotten, looking at the whole picture (price, performance, reliability, customer service, etc.) are with local ISPs doing fixed wireless. The major advantage is that by eliminating a Really?! I don't know this to

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin D. Clark
aluminumsulfate writes: That's great, but when v3 of the protocol comes out, and the message is encoded [snip] your v1 and v2 nodes are going to be incompatible with your v3 nodes. Like I said, I was speaking very generally. On the other hand, if the communication protocol was formed

Re: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:23:01 -0500 On the other hand, if the communication protocol was formed solely of grammatical Lojban text, this problem would never happen: I'm betting that Lojban poetry is even worse than Paul Neil Milne Johnstone's of

Re: OT: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thy micturations are to me As plurdled gabbleblotchits... And the mome raths outgrabe! -- B ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Bruce Dawson
Paul Lussier wrote: ... How about the GNHLUG server? Can we make that a DNS server as a membership benefit? Well, from a policy standpoint, I have no objections, but I wonder about some technical aspects. I'm not sure about the performance of that system. More importantly, unless you

Re: Real Men use XML, was quote, was Google Earth...

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/14/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XML can be superior to plain text .conf files because it can introduce structure, character-set specifications and can be associated with a schema that can define and validate the document. All of that can be applied to just about anything else,

Re: OT: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:00:30 -0500 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 11/14/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thy micturations are to me As plurdled gabbleblotchits... And the mome raths outgrabe! You joke! But, on OSCAR, someone once said youre so grabe to me. To

Real Men use Lojban WAS: Re: Real Men use XML, was quote, was Google Earth...

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
What XML gives you is a standard way to define the structure, schema, and so on, in a way that is unambiguous and machine-friendly. Hm. unambiguous and machine-friendly. Lojban, which is formally defined by a yacc grammar, meets both these criteria. As others have said, the major

Re: OT: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread Michael ODonnell
And the mome raths outgrabe! You joke! But, on OSCAR, someone once said youre so grabe to me. To this day, I wonder what s/he meant... *scratches head* My sincere apologies if I damage any illusions you may have been cherishing about the intensely profound significance of that comment, but

Re: Real Men use Lojban (fnord)

2006-11-14 Thread Ben Scott
POINTLESS On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What XML gives you is a standard way to define the structure, schema, and so on, in a way that is unambiguous and machine-friendly. Hm. unambiguous and machine-friendly. Lojban, which is formally defined by a yacc grammar,

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Greg Rundlett
On 11/14/06, Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Lussier wrote: ... How about the GNHLUG server? Can we make that a DNS server as a membership benefit? Well, from a policy standpoint, I have no objections, but I wonder about some technical aspects. I'm not sure about the

Re: Real Men use XML, was quote, was Google Earth...

2006-11-14 Thread Bill Ricker
What XML gives you is a standard way to define the structure, schema, and so on, in a way that is unambiguous and machine-friendly. Right. And if you do NOT create a X-Schema or DTD, and are using a non-validating parser, and then have to write code to explore the DOM generated from whatever

Re: OT: XML quote Re: Meeting Notes: SLUG Mon 14 Nov - Google Earth and everything else

2006-11-14 Thread aluminumsulfate
From: Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:12:32 -0500 And the mome raths outgrabe! You joke! But, on OSCAR, someone once said youre so grabe to me. To this day, I wonder what s/he meant... *scratches head* My sincere apologies if I damage any illusions you

Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck?

2006-11-14 Thread Bill Ricker
Re: Why must Comcast's DNS suck? Maybe there's a Conservation Law of Suckitude. I haven't noticed Verizon DNS sucking lately. Maybe Verizon Mass recruited Comcast NH's one good DNS tech to fix their breakage ?-) -- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]