From: Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:26:56 -0400
On Jul 10, 2007, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I am not my name. I am who I am, right here and right now.
Carbon isn't really 'carbon' either, it just makes chemistry a heck
of a lot easier not
On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We language-users have a tendancy to tag, categorize, and label
Could we take the deconstructionism off-list, please?
Thanks!
-- Ben
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Date: Thursday July 12, 2007
Time: 7:00PM
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This month we will be having a general discussion meeting. Bring
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When: July 18, 2007 7:00PM (6:30 for QA)
Topic: Trixbox: a telephony application platform based on Asterisk
Moderator: Andrew Gillis
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It has been pointed out to me privately that it appears
that I just gratuitously insulted VirginSnow, which I
did not intend - I was just moaning about how anonymity
is a mixed blessing and a necessary evil, one which I
have myself both used and, regretfully, abused... Peace.
Annual Summer BBQ XIII
When: Saturday, July 21, 2007 from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm
Where: John and Shelley Chambers' home
33 Cedarwood Avenue, Waltham, MA.
Boston Linux Unix is holding its thirteenth annual summer BBQ on
Saturday, July 21st, beginning at 1:00 p.m. Everyone is welcome. Guests
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From: Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:21:24 -0400
I am assuming that this whole discussion is a meta-meta-hyper-
super-extremely-triple-indirect-wink-wink-nudge-nudge method
of *not* acknowledging what anonymity is *really* about: the
freedom to behave like a
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it? Normal file erasure leaves the data intact. Secure
erasure or reformatting takes too much time, and the drive may not be
working well enough to complete the operation.
Another quick method suggested
On 7/11/07, Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it?
Words like best and efficient depend on what you're optimizing
for. I would say your description means you want to optimize for
speed, thoroughness, and
I don't recall the name of the company, but there is a data
destruction company which will pick up your hard drive and shred it in
front of you in their truck. :-)
On 7/11/07, Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before
Thought: assuming the holes covered with aluminum stickers actually give you
a passage to inside the drive if removed, take one off and spray some
powdered graphite inside, replace sticker, and spin the drive up. I'd not
feel very confident in it without testing, but it should give the drive
On 7/11/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't recall the name of the company, but there is a data
destruction company which will pick up your hard drive and shred it in
front of you in their truck. :-)
Here's a decent youtube video of hard drives getting shredded, looks
pretty
On 7/11/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't recall the name of the company, but there is a data
destruction company which will pick up your hard drive and shred it in
front of you in their truck. :-)
FWIW, that is not considered sufficient for media containing
classified
Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it? Normal file erasure leaves the data intact. Secure
erasure or reformatting takes too much time, and the drive may not be
working well enough to complete the operation.
Define
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:46:39 -0400
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, that is not considered sufficient for media containing
classified information. The NSA doesn't tell us why, but presumably
they have their reasons. Of course, your enemies are likely less
motivated. If it was my
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:01:01 -0400
From: Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it? Normal file erasure leaves the data intact. Secure
Define efficiency. My definition is free, fast,
On 7/11/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:46:39 -0400
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, that is not considered sufficient for media containing
classified information. The NSA doesn't tell us why, but presumably
they have their reasons. Of course,
Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thought: assuming the holes covered with aluminum stickers actually give you
a passage to inside the drive if removed,
They in fact do, we've disassembled a number of drives here recently :)
take one off and spray some powdered graphite inside,
humor
You need one of these: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
/humor
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From: Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:12:48 -0400
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it? Normal file erasure leaves the data intact. Secure
Hm. Hard drives are a member of that oh so FUN class of objects which
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 11:12, Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard
drive before junking it?
This was more of a survey question than one connected to one
specific application, so a full definition of the criteria was not
included.
To
On Jul 11, 2007, at 11:12, Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it?
That all depends on who you're defending against. Several of the
methods mentioned won't do any good if the attacker uses force probe
microscopy to
On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, Bill... Monday night, you offered to send me a link to that
video on the GPLv3. My e-mail name... er, address... is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Much thanks!
What video are we talking about? I must've had an aneurysm just
after that.
-Bill
From: Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:24:58 -0400
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 11:12, Jim Kuzdrall wrote:
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard
drive before junking it?
So far I like the idea of melting the drive best. Perhaps
Michael Kazin wrote:
For what it's worth, I spent a year at college (Rutgers Univ.) working
overnight as a Student Operator. My job was basically making hourly
rounds in the server room and watching Nagios. We monitored hundreds
of servers each being queried on several different protocols.
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:06:56 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm. Hard drives are a member of that oh so FUN class of objects which
are small enough to fit inside a microwave oven, are they not?
I wonder how a drive would fare if you opened it up, stuck it in a
microwave oven, and put it on
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:24:58 -0400
Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To focus more tightly, now that I have some idea of the
alternatives, the specific problem is one 80GB IDE from my business
computer that is gave ever increasing read errors. Since I have to pay
for the
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:53:06 -0400
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard stories about certain airplanes containing large trunks of
an acid bath (pH nor type not known to me) into which sensitive
electronics are dropped when the plane is in danger of falling into
3rd-party
We have come across ancient TRS-80 Model III with dual 180K 5.25
floppy drives. But we lack boot media. Does anyone here have one
they'd be willing to copy (assuming you have the means to do so) or
part with ?
--
Seeya,
Paul
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On 7/11/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, that is not considered sufficient for media containing
classified information.
I think we melt them.
That'll do it. Our DSS IS rep stated that acceptable methods for
destruction of magnetic media are:
- Degauss with something from the
Hey Hey You,
I think you need to introduce me to your dealer.
Sincerly,
Clean Cut in CubeVille
[sorry ben, I couldn't help it]
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On 7/11/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have come across ancient TRS-80 Model III with dual 180K 5.25
floppy drives. But we lack boot media. Does anyone here have one
they'd be willing to copy (assuming you have the means to do so) or
part with ?
Didn't they boot from ROM?
We have come across ancient TRS-80 Model III with dual 180K 5.25
floppy drives. But we lack boot media. Does anyone here have one
they'd be willing to copy (assuming you have the means to do so) or
part with ?
Whether my boot media is any good anymore I don't know ... should
have both MMS
What is the most efficient way to destroy the data on a hard drive
before junking it? Normal file erasure leaves the data intact. Secure
erasure or reformatting takes too much time, and the drive may not be
working well enough to complete the operation.
Good practice would swap the disk
Bill Ricker wrote:
We have come across ancient TRS-80 Model III with dual 180K 5.25
floppy drives. But we lack boot media. Does anyone here have one
they'd be willing to copy (assuming you have the means to do so) or
part with ?
Whether my boot media is any good anymore I don't know
On 7/11/07, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good practice would swap the disk out before it's too sick to reliably
run core-utils shred(1).
Be warned that with fancy filesystems (like EXT3 (with
data=journal) or ZFS), using shred(1) on individual files may not be
effective. (See the man
Dan Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill Ricker wrote:
We have come across ancient TRS-80 Model III with dual 180K 5.25
floppy drives. But we lack boot media. Does anyone here have one
they'd be willing to copy (assuming you have the means to do so) or
part with ?
Whether my boot
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 20:28 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote:
Unsubstantiated rumor was certain crypto gear came with thermite bomb
just above in case of capture.
Actually, back when I was in the Army, the termite was stored
separately, but quickly available.
--
Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp
On 7/11/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 20:28 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote:
Unsubstantiated rumor was certain crypto gear came with thermite bomb
just above in case of capture.
Actually, back when I was in the Army, the termite was stored
separately, but quickly
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