Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:09:11 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The early iterations of Red Hat's anaconda install did have some serious bugs in them. Let's re-write that as: The iterations of Red Hat have some serious bugs in them. It's more efficient and more accurate

vanished Gnome taskbar

2002-07-24 Thread Michael O'Donnell
A coworker (working remotely) asked this of the office staff this morning and we came up empty, so maybe the GNHLUG can offer a clue: I have been fighting with this all morning so I am now looking to see if anyone has the answer. When I logged in this A.M. my taskbar and pager in my panel

Re: vanished Gnome taskbar

2002-07-24 Thread Mark Komarinski
My Ximian laptop (RH 7.2) loses it the first time I log in after a reboot. I kill X, then restart and it pops up fine and never have a problem again. -Mark On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 10:01:45AM -0400, Michael O'Donnell wrote: A coworker (working remotely) asked this of the office staff this

Re: vanished Gnome taskbar

2002-07-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:01:45 EDT Michael O'Donnell said: Is Gnome known to be prone to random failures of this sort, or is this more likely pilot error? Yes. :) 2 things to try: 1. Bring up the GNOME Control panel, and toggle the options pertaining to

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 09:58:35AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:09:11 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The early iterations of Red Hat's anaconda install did have some serious bugs in them. Let's re-write that as: The iterations of Red

Re: vanished Gnome taskbar

2002-07-24 Thread bscott
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 10:01am, Michael O'Donnell wrote: Is Gnome known to be prone to random failures of this sort, or is this more likely pilot error? I have seen the GNOME panel crash plenty of times, but it normally restarts automatically, and all the applets reappear with little or no

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread bscott
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 10:26am, Mark Komarinski wrote: Distros have their problems, no doubt about it. It's fortunate we can have this discussion at all as compared to Windows users. It's also fortunate that we can find our own ways around some of the problems that also happen to be

Re: vanished Gnome taskbar

2002-07-24 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Problem apparently solved - thanks to all. The user's (somewhat unclear) summary of the fix: When you right click on the panel you can navigate down to where you add applets. These things are applets but the problem was I was reading the RedHat manuals and they call these applets

RE: Formal trainning...

2002-07-24 Thread Georgitsis, Vasilios
I am sorry for not been too specific. What were are looking for is something like performance tuning on linux, kernel, and/or apache. We are not looking for something basic on sys admin type of classes. Thanks for the input. Vasilios Georgitsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:33:00 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have seen Derek's Red Hat bug reports before. He is often rude, abusive, and/or insulting, none of which are productive. You might find that sort of thing funny, but frankly, I think he does himself, Red Hat, and

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: 24 Jul 2002 10:49:57 EDT Kenneth E. Lussier said: Do we really need to re-hash this *AGAIN*??? But the horse is still twitching! It's not quite dead yet! ;) -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Do we really need to re-hash this *AGAIN*??? But the horse is still twitching! It's not quite dead yet! ;) You're such losers - anybody can see that the vi-versus-emacs flamewar is by FAR superior to the Linux-distro one... (Heh. I was just wondering if it's possible for me to

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 11:06, Michael O'Donnell wrote: You're such losers - anybody can see that the vi-versus-emacs flamewar is by FAR superior to the Linux-distro one... I'm not a big fan of the 5 editor. And eMacs, well, isn't that Apple's version of a networked toilet-seat looking

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Bob Bell
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 11:19:13AM -0400, Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 11:06, Michael O'Donnell wrote: You're such losers - anybody can see that the vi-versus-emacs flamewar is by FAR superior to the Linux-distro one... I'm not a big fan of the 5

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Erik Price
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, at 10:49 AM, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: OK, before the My distro is better than yours starts again, I can save everyone the trouble: A bunch of people like Debian because it's more stable, apt-get is better than RPM, and it's very hands-on. A bunch of people

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 10:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Most of those gripes are a matter of RH not having experience sysadmins doing QA for them. Um, EXCUSE ME, but I'm an experienced sysadmin and *I* do QA for them. I'm on the beta team. And I know *many* who do testing who are

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Richard Soule
Michael, I'm not sure what your software is/or does, so this comment might be totally off the wall, but have you considered using the web to 'distribute' your application? If you are building software that accesses a centralized store of information and it can be done within the relatively

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread bscott
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 10:55am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't disagree with any of that, I was merely stating that it's an amusing read. You forget there is a real person on the other end of it. I have been the object of that kind of abuse too many times to find it amusing. :-( Which

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread bscott
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 10:59am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The iterations of Linux distros have some major bugs in them. It's more accurate, and much more general :) Might as well be completely honest: The various iterations of most software have some major bugs in them. Or, to

Playing DVDs on Linux

2002-07-24 Thread bscott
Hello all, We now interrupt our regularly scheduled flaming to bring you the following on-topic post. ;-) I have, until now, been avoiding having anything to do with DVDs, due to the issues surrounding their use. (I was afraid I would be arrested for turning it on or something.) However,

Re: automated installation

2002-07-24 Thread Tom Buskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 10:55am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... espoused by Evi Nemeth, et al, in the UNIX/Linux System Administrator's Handbook series. RH violates these basic practices with their configurations many times. Heh. My take on the same thing was that

Re: Playing DVDs on Linux

2002-07-24 Thread Tom Buskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello all, stuff about legal issues with DVDs deleted :-) So, I now have a DVD reader in my computer. It does a fine job reading audio and data CDs, but I had that before. I would like to be able to play movies, too. What, if anything, do people use to