Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-09 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: Just to follow up -- for GNOME 2.29.90, we've made the decision to make the stable stuff the default. So, the CORBA infrastructure will be installed to the same locations as it was with GNOME 2.28.x and the D-Bus infrastructure will be installed in a relocated spot. You can read more

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-05 Thread Joseph Scheuhammer
I tend to be conservative: if users want/need/expect stability (and what user doesn't expect that?), then it would be unacceptable if they ended up with an inconsistent, buggy, crashy, experience. But, I am out of my depth, so let me ask questions. Has GNOME has been in this position

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 01 février 2010, à 14:54 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit : Please, speak up with your thoughts. The collective opinion of our group matters and it will help shape what recommendations we will make to the release team for GNOME 2.30. I think both should be shipped, and we should document

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-02 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Will, I think both versions of at-spi should be included in gnome-2.30, because at-spi2 need a lot of testing and not all users want to build it from source. BTW.: Do we have a big improovement of a11y in gnome 2.30 compared to gnome 2.28? If not, we should make at-spi2 as default for gnome

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-02 Thread Tom Masterson
Speaking from the standpoint of a user. I want it to be stable. I don't mind working with an unstable version on a virtual machine but I want my main machine to remain stable so I can work and I want to be able to upgrade my OS (ubuntu) without loosing my accessibility. Granted I do most of

GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-01 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: GNOME 2.30 is coming out on the Ides of March (March 15). I have one main question for you: do you want it to be stable or do you want it to have more cutting edge stuff? This question is predicated on the assumption that GNOME 2.30 is the last of the GNOME 2 releases and GNOME 3 is

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-01 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:54:19AM PST, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: GNOME 2.30 is coming out on the Ides of March (March 15). I have one main question for you: do you want it to be stable or do you want it to have more cutting edge stuff? This question is predicated on the assumption

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-01 Thread Li Yuan
at-spi2 has been put into OpenSolaris' development releases. But I can't put it into stable release without http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13438 fixed. I believe this is a at-spi and at-spi2 co-exist bug. And we still have not run a full test for CORBA based accessibility under

Re: GNOME 2.30: go stable or go cutting edge?

2010-02-01 Thread Ginn Chen
I'm afraid the performance of Firefox is very bad with AT-SPI2. We need to fix it before end-user gets it. Firefox tries to send children-changed event for every child add/remove, AT-SPI2 tries to update the whole children set when it gets a children-changed event. I'm wondering if there're