Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-31 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: Thanks so much for your feedback last week. David Bolter and I went over the e-mail and talked about things on the phone. I've just updated the http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GetInvolved wiki to reflect this. On this page, you'll find an Areas Needing the Most Attention section.

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-28 Thread Steve Lee
On 26/01/2008, Francesco Fumanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand exactly what you mean by general purpose ATs; what would be the non general purpose ATs? In fact, in my view the fonctionalities of the plugin would be available sessionwide We may be saying the same thing but using

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-25 Thread Steve Lee
On 24/01/2008, Francesco Fumanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just read a bit in the OSK-ng, on the LSR list,... and I find the idea of a modular approach very interesting. But don't expect from end-users to work with scripts; he should rather be present with an architecture similar to plugins.

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-25 Thread Luke Yelavich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I originally sent this directly to Willie, but I think it wouldn't hurt to also send it to this list. On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 03:23:36PM GMT, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: I've seen some good activity on the WIKI (thanks!). I also need your

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-25 Thread Steve Lee
On 24/01/2008, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B. Ensure that the apps utilise a widgets library that supports AT-SPI. GTK+ is very popular and it uses GAIL to automatically expose AT-SPI for stock widgets. So it is important for application developers to carefully consider the case for

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-25 Thread Steve Lee
On 17/01/2008, Willie Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the most important things for us to do right now is identify where we need to improve. Over the coming week, please set aside some time to look at http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GetInvolved. Thanks for getting us focused on

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-25 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: I just want to send out a note of thanks to everyone who contributed their input as well as those who added details to the http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GetInvolved WIKI page. Francesco, your additions to the page were especially good. David Bolter and I are going to review

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-24 Thread Steve Lee
On 23/01/2008, Francesco Fumanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't get me wrong: In my previous post quoted below I did not want to say anything about the importance of the point about having an onscreen keyboard that is more efficient for the users that... I only wanted to say that it is

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-24 Thread David Bolter
Hi All, I just wanted to explain my lack on involvement recently. I'm on holiday until mid-February so that I can have quality time with my new baby girl and her 5 year old sister. I'm still very passionate about the new momentum in GNOME a11y. I'll be back. cheers, David Willie Walker

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-24 Thread Francesco Fumanti
Hello, At 9:43 AM + 1/24/08, Steve Lee wrote: Actually we want to ensure that *all* user a11y needs are covered well and you've identified a gap. I also see it as a part of a the need to polish up 'alternative access' provision. The time is ripe for a good discussion. We did set up the

GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-24 Thread Ian Pascoe
Subject: Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan) Hi Francesco: My goal for this exercise is to hear what the community thinks is the most important stuff to get done. As I see with the Orca project, having end users directly involved in the decision making process makes

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-23 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: I've seen some good activity on the WIKI (thanks!). I also need your help with identifying the top 5 to 10 things that need doing on this list. Please be brave and speak up, especially those of you who have expressed concerns about where the community might be focusing or spending

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-23 Thread Francesco Fumanti
Hello, Not knowing the state of the other ATs, I don't think that a top ten list from my part would make any sense. However, I would like to ask you to whether you could take into account the creation of an efficient onscreen keyboard for users that have good control of the movement of the

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-21 Thread Francesco Fumanti
Hello, First of all, thanks for making this possible. At 11:11 AM -0500 1/17/08, Willie Walker wrote: One of the most important things for us to do right now is identify where we need to improve. This may result in positive things such as funding opportunities and the like. Over the coming

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-21 Thread Peter Korn
Hi Francesco, Please see my answers/responses in-line, below. ... I have added the Improve efficiency of the GNOME desktop for mouse-only users to the above mentioned wiki page. In fact, GNOME is lacking (or did I miss it?) an onscreen keyboard targeted specifically at people that have

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-21 Thread web
Hello, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:47:58 +0100 Francesco Fumanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First of all, thanks for making this possible. At 11:11 AM -0500 1/17/08, Willie Walker wrote: *cut* Over the coming week, please set aside some time to look at

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-17 Thread Brian Cameron
Willie: Thank you for doing this. A few weeks ago it seemed that there was overwhelming support for starting an Accessibility Steering Committee. I agree that it makes sense to get the Accessibility Wiki in good order as a preliminary project to setting up a Steering Committee. One advantage

Re: GNOME A11y: where do we need to improve? (Want input by 25-Jan)

2008-01-17 Thread Bryen
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 11:42 -0500, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: One of the most important things for us to do right now is identify where we need to improve. This may result in positive things such as funding opportunities and the like. Over the coming week, please set aside some time