Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
I've seen a lot of people say that if you modify GPL code and run it on a server (e.g. I modify MySQL and then use it as a database for my shopping website), you don't have to GPL your modifications. Can anyone point me to an official statement on this by the FSF or another

Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Rex writes: Do you mean this? Who is you? Are you replying to someone in particular? Hint: this is Usenet, not a forum. In other words, it wouldn't be OK to modify Emacs and allow people full remote use of it on my server without giving out the source, but it would be OK to modify MySQL so

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Fung wrote: You can make profit of the GPL licence, see for example redhat. But you should be aware of one thing: using the commoncpp library will probably mean you need to license your software under GPL, so the source code must be provided. Sez who? regards, alexander.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] That must be why we have all those copyright violation lawsuits going on. We don't have any lawsuits. You (gnu.org folk), on the other hand,

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Fung
To clarify it a bit: providing source code is not the question here. I just want to know if it is legal to use the differently licensed software in such manner, namely: personal/internal use eventhough the licences exclude eachother ___ Gnu-misc-discuss

GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Fung
Dear folks, I am currently doing some research on open source licences and while reading the GPL licence the following question arose: Distributing a derivative work combined from software licensed under the Apache Software Licence 2.0 and software licensed under the GNU GPL 2.0 is not possible,

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alexander Terekhov wrote: [...] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-versus-community.html The funny thing is that the guy pretends to be a sort of anarchist. In in interview with Spiegel Online Stallman said I tend toward the left-wing anarchist idea, and to LinuxWorld Today he said I am a

Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] lawfully made, dispose of, possession. It is clear that this applies to physical copies acquired in an exchange of interest with the copyright holder, not to things you duplicated

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] That must be why we have all those copyright violation lawsuits going on. We don't have any lawsuits. You (gnu.org folk), on the other hand, have a nice lawsuit from Wallace. Kudos to him for calling the bluff and

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread Fung
art 3 of the GPL licence: You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 ... art 4 of the GPL licence. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly

Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
For the sake of nailing stupid dak once again... David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hasler wrote: [...] No. You are only required to give copies of the source to those you give copies of the binaries to. 17 USC 109 disagrees. The owner of a

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fung wrote: I am currently doing some research on open source licences and while reading the GPL licence the following question arose: Distributing a derivative work combined from software licensed under [whatever]

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] That must be why we have all those copyright violation lawsuits going on. We don't have any lawsuits. You (gnu.org folk), on the other hand, have a nice lawsuit from Wallace. Kudos to him for calling the bluff and achieving pretty good results already. For example,

Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
John Hasler wrote: [...] No. You are only required to give copies of the source to those you give copies of the binaries to. 17 USC 109 disagrees. The owner of a lawfully made copy is ENTITLED, WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY OF THE COPYRIGHT OWNER, to sell or otherwise dispose of the possession of

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread Fung
You can make profit of the GPL licence, see for example redhat. But you should be aware of one thing: using the commoncpp library will probably mean you need to license your software under GPL, so the source code must be provided. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hey misc.int-property, enjoy GNUtian view on IP (it indeed is not property and belongs to the state _under_ _current_ _laws_). GNUtian David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fung wrote: [... the GPL ...] The GPL talks about legal regime in the GNU

Re: GNU General Public License?

2006-01-31 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fung wrote: [... the GPL ...] The GPL talks about legal regime in the GNU Republic in a nearby alternative universe where First Sale is nonexistent, IP is not property (it belongs to the state), Intellectual property indeed is not property

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Isaac
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:52:32 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To clarify it a bit: providing source code is not the question here. I just want to know if it is legal to use the differently licensed software in such manner, namely: personal/internal use eventhough

Re: Running modified GPL software on a server

2006-01-31 Thread Isaac
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:27:38 -0600, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rex writes: I've seen a lot of people say that if you modify GPL code and run it on a server (e.g. I modify MySQL and then use it as a database for my shopping website), you don't have to GPL your modifications. It's

Re: GPL 3 and patents question

2006-01-31 Thread Claudio Nieder
Hi, This isn't something related to the GPLv3, it is related to how patent law works. So it is your task to check that you are not violating any patents, and you cannot put the burden on someone else. This is one of the major problem with software patents, it is impossible to check that

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fung wrote: Dear folks, I am currently doing some research on open source licences and while reading the GPL licence the following question arose: Distributing a derivative work combined from software

Re: GPL 3 and patents question

2006-01-31 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio Nieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I take GPLv3ed Program xyz and add to it some code. I don't conduct any investigation about wether my code infringes on any patents, as in Switzerland this is a non-issue. So I give modified xyz to a friend here