[GOAL] Re: Fee-free scholarly publishing

2012-08-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
If we wait for subsidized Gold OA in order to reach universal OA we will wait till the heat death of the universe. Please, please let's get behind a realistic, pragmatic, scalable, sustainable, reachable course of action otherwise we will keep running off in all directions and getting nowhere

[GOAL] CC-BY and - or versus - open access

2012-08-17 Thread Heather Morrison
Many in the open access movement consider CC-BY to be the very embodiment of the spirit of the Budapest Open Access Initiative - giving away all rights to one's work, including commercial rights, for open access. My own take on this is that while CC-BY can provide a useful tool for those fully

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY and - or versus - open access

2012-08-17 Thread Arthur Smith
There is nothing preventing somebody from charging for a work provided through a CC-BY or other CC license; however, the first person to purchase such content then has the right (from the CC license) to redistribute it freely, so in practice if any publisher tried to charge it would be

[GOAL] Fwd: International Science and Technology Indicators (STI) – Montreal, Canada, September 5-8, 2012

2012-08-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
Begin forwarded message: From: Larivière Vincent vincent.larivi...@umontreal.ca Subject: [SIGMETRICS] STI 2012 - Final programme now available Date: 17 August, 2012 3:52:38 PM EDT To: sigmetr...@listserv.utk.edu Reply-To: ASIST Special Interest Group on Metrics sigmetr...@listserv.utk.edu

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY and - or versus - open access

2012-08-17 Thread Jan Velterop
Heather, Ever heard of FUD? This is it. Jan Velterop Sent from my iPad On 17 Aug 2012, at 18:54, Heather Morrison hgmor...@sfu.ca wrote: Many in the open access movement consider CC-BY to be the very embodiment of the spirit of the Budapest Open Access Initiative - giving away all rights

[GOAL] Re: Fee-free scholarly publishing

2012-08-17 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.ukwrote: If we wait for subsidized Gold OA in order to reach universal OA we will wait till the heat death of the universe. Please, please let's get behind a realistic, pragmatic, scalable, sustainable, reachable course of