Dear FIFA
I must protest your sudden change of theme at this year's World Cup. From a
colonial theme (Portugal-Angola) with Goan support, you have changed to a
World War II theme (France-Italy). Now only a few people in Pondicherry will
support France and the rest of India regrets they were
May the best team win the World Cup. Any of the eight teams who made the
quarter-finals could have
won the World Cup (perhaps not Ukraine). Had Roberto Carlos stayed awake and
covered Henry, Brazil
may have beaten France. May have, could have, should have.the
Argentina-Germany could have
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: George, in your travels you seem to have hung around North Goa
only.
This is a disservice to South Goans. You are a biased traveller;-)
Thanks for your occasional humorous travelogue !!
Thank you Bosco. In case the Zuari bridge falls
Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc., a USA-based non-profit, volunteer NGO
working for the
betterment of Goa and Goans worldwide, is celebrating 2006 as the YEAR OF THE
SENIOR. We intend to
honour Goan seniors by publishing a Seniors E-Book, similar to the Goan Women's
E-book. The book
will
I am wondering if Goa has art which was stolen from other places in its
museums? Vice-versa is
there Goan art which is sitting in other musuems, potentially stolen from
Goa. This is not
simply an art question, but one of cultural legacy. Yes, I fully support the
Mona Lisa
returning to Italy,
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Is there any raw data available on whether theists/fools are more or less
likely to quote sayings
in their arguments as opposed to atheists/agnostics? Are fools really people?
Can animals be
foolish? Do animals have rock solid moral codes?
George
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Santosh Helekar is a good and decent human being, a gentleman and scholar, and
a friend. I have
met him a couple of times and admire his thought-provoking comments. His
presence has enhanced
these forums. Discussions require solid facts and substantive arguments and he
has provided them -
No to censorship.
Yes to a very limited moderation (to block spam emails, excesssive posts, etc.).
Yes to courtesy, civility, politeness.
Regards,
George
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A simple look at the daily Herald Newspaper, in Goa, indicates how
real caste is among Catholic Goans especially when it comes to the time of
marriage.
From: Tony Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for the Goan Gymkhana Club in Nairobi, membership was
Hi Nasci,
Should dead pagans be shot too? Why not. Modern religious fundamentalist
chauvinism should be
creative in its crusade unlike the old crusades which just killed living people.
Regards,
George
Nasci Caldeira wrote: I wonder what Radha Krishnan Nair, Vivek,
Aristo and Santosh,
Is the Muslim moral code superior to the Christian moral code? Pakistani Test
player weighs in on
the issue
...http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/asksteven/content/current/story/254160.html
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George
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I first learnt of Joseph through Goa Sudharop. His courage is inspiring. Rather
than allow a
challenge (sight) get him down, he makes it a point to triumph over adversity.
He is what is good
and noble about Goa, a real-life hero in our midst. His story below.
Regards,
George
--- Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Conservatives of the world unite, so seems to be the battle-cry of the
moment. And, you can see examples of it in the fairly intense BJP
admiration of Israeli state-sanctioned terror tactics and some of
George Bush's politics (which also
Goanetters visiting Viva Goa 2006 in Toronto, Canada on July 29, can use
the BMX booth as a meeting point. Please list your name on the message
board that will be provided, courtesy of BMX.
Goanetters visiting Viva Goa 2006 in Toronto, Canada on July 29, can use
the BMX booth as a meeting point. Please list your name on the message
board that will be provided, courtesy of BMX.
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George Pinto says, Israel is exterminating Christians in its random bombing
raids in Beirut.
Exterminating Christians? Random bombing raids?
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Israel is exterminating Christians in its random bombing raids
--- velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. I'm moving to Kings College, London in September to do my masters. I
will then
sign off London, UK instead of Panjim, Goa.
Sunith
Good luck in your studies in London. It is always a source of pride and joy to
see a fellow Goan
do well, especially
Dear Gilbert,
I am flabbergasted that you get carried away with your own gibberish. Your
post below is public
abuse of people who have different views than you. To say you have views is
being kind to you,
reading some of the confused garbage you regularly post on this forum. Why the
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. They have NO RIGHT to have their Bad
Practices to impact in public. Keep it strictly
Private, confined to the Temple and or Home.
George Pinto says:
And if you are really interested in fighting injustice why don't you speak
up and fight for it within the Christian tradition. Take women's equality
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Rodrigues understands the difference
(correctly) between Founder
and Organizer.
Excerpts from an email in Goan cyberspace from Rene in Nov 2003. Please read
GOA SUDHAROP for
George Pinto, I do not want any personal credit, and GOA SUDHAROP provided the
resources.
The occasion [WGD] has drawn many
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A fellow former-Chemburkar (Bombay), my first memory of George Menezes was when
he dressed as
Santa Claus and came down the chimney at the Club to amuse us as kids - next to
OLPS School. A
good family friend and my dad's contemporary, he has achieved much and done Goa
proud. His
submission
If you are a Senior please submit an essay or please ask your
parents/grandparents to submit an
essay
Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc., a USA-based non-profit, volunteer NGO
working for the
betterment of Goa and Goans worldwide, is celebrating 2006 as the YEAR OF THE
SENIOR. We
Dear all,
By request, a third category is being added to the GOAN Senior E-book to be
published by Goa
Sudharop. The third category is Tribute to Seniors. See complete details
below.
Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc., a USA-based non-profit, volunteer NGO
working for the
betterment of
Mario, please, there are women on this list. Your zeal, construed as a
'missionary position', on
this matter related to homosexuality, might scandalize some.
Regards,
George
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Catholic Church's position on homosexuality does not apply to me because
I
Entries from around the world keep coming in for Goa Sudharop's GOAN SENIORS
E-book. Please send
in your entry too. Below is an entry from Lenny Barretto.
Regards,
George
Goans have always shown a natural
This submission for the GOAN SENIORS E-book by the well-respected Dr. Francisco
Colaço (Margao)
caught my eye. Please send in your submission, if you have not done so already.
Regards,
George
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SERENATAS DE AMOR (SERENADES OF
Reminiscences of my Goan Youth
by DR. BAILON DESA
There is strong evidence that I was born, rather prematurely, in the island
village, Santo
Estevam, on the 17th May 1913. My family was middle class. But my parents were
very respected for
their honesty, integrity and charity. I grew up a normal
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My reaction to an atheist is benign neglect and I have expressed
this before. It is no different as towards someone who smokes, divorced,
lives a homosexual life style, or cheats on their spouse.
It is impossible for sensible people to make it
Very interesting submission below under the 'TRIBUTE TO GOAN SENIORS' category
for the GOA
SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-book. Please send your submission to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George
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PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST... AS A WINE-MAKER
By Frederick
Of a Goan hotel in Pakistan and more. See submission below for the GOA SUDHAROP
GOAN SENIORS
E-book. Please send your submission to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George
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Goans should be proud of this good man - Frank D'Souza
By
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilbert appears to have now found refuge in name-calling, while going through
some kind of
twisting and turning to rationalize his statement of moral equivalence .
It is hard
to understand, as usual, what he is trying to say,
Gilbert is
-- Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And next year do something worthwhile so that WGD will unite and not divide.
And finally pay
tribute to that quiet, solitary, unknown Goan who really founded World Goa
Day, an aeon ago.
The issue is just the ongoing failure of World Goa Day to
--- godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As Goans worldwide celebrate WGD kindly make it a point to read out this
message,
obtain a signature pledge from every Goan present at the festivities to
work for the success of this mission.
Hi Godfrey
You have worked hard to promote
A very informative essay submitted for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-book.
See below.
George
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'DATTARAM' -- THE MAN BEHIND IMMORTAL TUNES... NOW OLD, AILING AND FORGOTTEN
by Frederick Noronha
Do you remember the hit Bollywood film songs
Roland, thinking of the future, should this rather be an e-museum? Your
gesture and idea is truly
comemnedable. George
--- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a project I humbly think is worthy of a world Goan effort. It is
something for which I can without a blink dig into my
As someone involved in the set-up of World Goa Day since inception of idea and
for the first three
years:
FOUNDING IDEA: Filomena Giese (Goa Sudharop).
FOUNDING ROLE: Basilio Magno (Song), Goa World (helped publicize event), Rene
Baretto, Goa Sudharop (website, publicity) and those
I disagree with Ben. Gonadians is great coinage, especially if we Goans want
to have a laugh at
our expense.
Helga, can you come up with something similar for Goans in America, Australia,
Portugal, England
too.
Regards,
George
From: Ben Antao ben.antao at rogers.com
Dear Cecil:
Please
See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_fe_st/hitler_eatery
George
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Jose Colaco wrote:
I'd like to say baloney to the above from George Pinto but I will not.
Gonadians is NOT good
coinage.
Oh my gosh, I just realized baloney has roots in Bahama Goans ;-))
George
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On a second childhood and a moving tribute to a father - see submission below
for the GOA SUDHAROP
GOAN SENIORS E-book. Please send your submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks,
George
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The Cycle of Life
by Edwin Fernandes
Growing
Gilbert is definitely on to something and has really provided his own
explanation to his question
below. Relative morality has to do with one's relatives as opposed to
non-relative morality
which relates to non-relatives, both bigoted and non-bigoted.
Regards,
George
Gilbert Lawrence
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Full of nostalgia, and written by Goans with literary talent, the
contributions
on Goan reminiscences make enjoyable reading and I am sure they must have
brought happy memories to countless readers. I have saved everyone of them.
M. Santos
Thank you. The
See submission below for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-BOOK. Please send your
essay to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, George
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Vacations In Goa
By Bella Comelo
My
--- Helga do R. Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks George - for easing the deadline. I want to write something but I
have to do some fact checking in Goa. I will try and give the e-book some
more publicity then.
Hi Helga
In all the noise and confusion of Goan cyberspace, we forget
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Dear Arnold,
If as you write Honor delayed is honor denied, how do you explain that there
is no NATIVE Indian
saint canonized to date? In over 500 years of Goan Catholic history, there is
no Native Goan
saint.
I ask you simply Is the Vatican racist in its sainthood policy? Before you
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A 30 year old male robber breaks into your home. He
steals the jewelry, physically assaults a member of your
family and flees. The robber is caught and confesses to
the crime. His guilt is beyond doubt. What would be your
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your correct diagnosis of many current Goanetters is
painful, even though some of the worst offenders have
not posted in a long time. It breaks ones heart to see
some smart Goans just do not get it - It is nice to
be important.
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Theme: Goan Identity And Networking Today.
http://2008goanconvention.com/index.php
Mario Miranda Festival, July 24-26, 2008 Old GMC Building
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--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I might remind you once more (ad nauseam) of the concluding lines of
Milton's immortal On His Blindness?
For those wondering, it is They also serve who only stand and wait. (Milton)
If anyone considers Rajan an armchair critic
Dear Miguel
For the benefit of those who are not aware of the GBA's successes, can you list
some of the land conversions/mega projects the GBA has stopped or reversed or
had torn down since the 2011 Regional Plan was revoked (in theory). It is
useful for all to be aware of the facts and GBA's
Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George PInto writes:
If houses of prostitution were set up all over Goa and
prostitutes brought in from other states, Goans would be
up in arms. Now, we have
George,
Since you are in California, and a US citizen also, could
you throw some light on the amount
Dear Miguel
I attended two Goan conventions in July (California, Toronto). Over 90% of the
attendees did not hear of the GBA or their accomplishments. I am well aware of
the good work the GBA has done as I am of the machinations and soap-operas
behind the scenes. I offered you the opportunity
In connection with GOA SUDHAROP's YEAR OF EDUCATION theme
Vidya Vikas Academy (ICSE) Margao Goa Sudharop present
Creating A Child Friendly Classroom - (a teachers training program)
on Saturday, August 9, 2008 from 9am to 5pm
at Vidya Vikas Academy, School Hall, 2nd floor,
VVM Campus,
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from
the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?
Regards,
George
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Goanet News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By A Staff Reporter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa
Dear Eugene
I am disappointed by your Notes from the Goan Convention posts. They are
vinegar posts. So much hard work, goodwill, positive accomplishments all from
very fine people in the Toronto Goan community and you have overlooked that,
instead we are presented negatives. I know from
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sorry, if my reply offended you. It was not intended.
Dear Miguel, no apology needed but graciously accepted. You have respect and
credibility as a gentleman whose heart bleeds for Goa. Keep fighting for Goa,
do not get
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the
political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we
pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all
sort of opinions and comments but the
The management of Goa Sudharop is pleased to welcome Shekhar Ambe to its Board
of Directors. We are honored by such an outstanding addition.
Shekhar Ambe is an entrepreneur in Silicon valley, California working in the
technology sector. He has over 20 years of experience and has played key
A short perspective
by Mrs. Acaria Almeida, Treasurer, Goa Sudharop
A reflective question as a delegate who attended the convention: What were our
take aways from this convention? My hope is that all delegates ought to have
left the convention with more food for thought which will translate
Thank you Oscar. Goans must boot-strap themselves to success. Focus, hard-work,
and staying positive will make a real difference in the long-run.
George
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My thanks to Mrs. Almeida. It? is very interesting (and
laudable) to note
There are 15,000+ disabled persons in Goa. Please visit the Goa Sudharop
sponsored website www.disabilitygoa.com for more information. George
--- Disability Rights Assoc, Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Friends,
On 15th August 2008 the Govt. of India will be celebrating independence day
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Eugene,
You provided a service to Goans by giving us the
story behind the story and a segway for others
who provided the 'not so pleasant facts' like the
poor attendance.
I have no idea why an intelligent professional
Frederick,
What I see in the video are a number of blatant land use violations, including
building close to the water's edge. Ironically, Mallya's land use violations
are close to Salgaonkar's River Princess ecocological disaster. This is
capitalism's illegal and ugly face. What is needed are
Hi Eugene,
I have no dog in this fight and will not be dragged into taking sides. Some of
us wrote about our convention experience without prejudice. Whatever issues
need to be resolved, need to be done locally without the vomit on public
forums. I wish all of you an amicable resolution,
20th August 2008
Teachers Training Workshop held at Margao.
Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc. USA in association with Vidya Vikas
Academy, Margao, organized a day’s teachers training workshop “Creating a Child
Friendly Classroom” for South Goa school teachers on 9th August, at Vidya
The goal should be to restore Dabolim as a full-time civilian airport which
will more than serve the aviation needs of Goa, The land scam Mopa is not
needed and no one should promote land scams in Goa. The Indian navy can move to
bases outside Goa.
Regards,
George
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's talk about the Navy, one good question, what is it, that the Navy
is doing, in Goa that cannot be done from the Seabird at
Karwar ? Any guesses ? Do we really need the Navy at Dabolim ?
The navy is not needed in Dabolim
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Agnelo Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could have been mince meat in an accident about 8 years
ago in very heavy traffic, at superfast speed, on a very busy
superhighway in Saudi Arabia. I have seen brain, limbs thrown 40 ft
away from the body, etc situations on
Below is a synopsis of the Goa Sudharop sponsored workshop Reading With Kids
conducted for approximately 40 parents at the Hospicio Hospital, Child
Development Clinic of the Pediatric Dept, Goa, on 29th August, 2008 from 3-6pm.
This workshop was conducted consistent with Goa Sudharop's 2008
In connection with GOA SUDHAROP's 2008 theme YEAR OF EDUCATION, please see
event below. Thank you to all donors, supporters and well-wishers of Goa
Sudharop.
Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org
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GOA SUDHAROP ROTARY CLUB OF CUNCOLIM,
GOA SUDHAROP's theme for 2008 is “YEAR OF EDUCATION”. In accordance with this
theme, GOA SUDHAROP invites from school PRINCIPALS/HEADMASTERS/HEADMISTRESSES
in Goa, essays written in English on the topic “EDUCATION IN GOA: WHAT IS
NEEDED?”. Maximum essay length 2000 words. The essay should be
Goa Sudharop welcomes you to participate in this year’s Rock and Roll Half
Marathon on October 5th, 2008 in San Jose, California, and support our fund
raising efforts for our 2008 theme Year of Education. Proceeds from this
event will support education efforts in Goa. You can do one or both of
to the Druston's song.
5. Listen to a few beats and click on Vote again.
6. Repeat up to 20 times.
Thank you.
George Pinto
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We have had some Goan politicians take both sides of the Mopa issue! Neither
major party has the
will to take on tough issues while busy looting the citizen and taxpayer with
SEZs scams, RP 2011
land grab, etc. Neither party has been able to remove the River Princess sunken
ship off the
Half Marathon in San Jose, Oct 14: A successful half-marathon fund-raiser in
conjunction with the
San Jose Rock 'n' Roll event raised $3,000+ for Goa Sudharop's YEAR OF THE
ENVIRONMENT projects
and awards this year. Thanks to the runners and their sponsors for their hard
work and support. A
Joe, your true love for Goa shows. You are genuinely interested in promoting
Goa and not yourself,
unlike some others who are interested in self-publicity and taking credit when
others have done
the work. Keep it up.
George
--- JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About JoeGoaUks work on the
Shocking that 50% of the population (women) are excluded from decision making
bodies in Goa.
Additionally, only one of 40 MLAs is a woman.
Regards,
George
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19th Oct,2007.
PRESS RELEASE
Bailancho Saad has reteirated its demand that the Government immediately
Congratulations to the Disability Rights Association of Goa. Please visit their
website for more
information - http://www.disabilitygoa.com (sponsored by Goa Sudharop).
Dear Friends,
We are happy to inform you that Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) has
completed 4 years
today.
Dear all
Goa Sudharop has received reports of several Goans being affected by the
Southern California
fires. A tragic situation is unfolding. The extent is unknown as the fires are
still starting and
spreading in some areas. Some San Diego Goans are being evacuated - many due
to smoke than
Dear all,
Goa Sudharop would like to thank those who have assisted and offered help. This
is a long process
and recovery will takes months, if not years. The fires continue to rage, see
latest news stories
at http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/Wildfires_and_Forest_Fires
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