Re: [appengine-java] Newbie.... using Android.jar in GAE

2011-12-05 Thread Matthew Jaggard
Hi Gavin, If I've missed something please don't be offended, but I think you're missing the separation of Server and Client Device. Google App Engine is all about running applications on Google's servers - all communication with any device (Android, PC, etc.) needs to be done using one of the

[appengine-java] Multi-threading enabled with servlets

2011-12-05 Thread Jason
Hi, Apologies if this is clarified elsewhere but I need to make sure. I'm basically trying to figure out if there is much benefit in using threading inside my Java code if all of the work is done in servlets. Specifically, lets say I use threadsafetrue/threadsafe in appengine-web.xml. Now I have

[appengine-java] 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi, We've uploaded the pre-release SDKs, get 'em while they are hot. As a reminder, the features listed in the pre-release SDKs notes are not available in production at this time, and documentation for them will be available when the release is officially announced. If you find any backward

[appengine-java] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Michael Quartly
What are the 2 Frontend Instance classes we will be able to choose from? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/SCM6ZmxWFuYJ.

[appengine-java] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Michael Quartly
*3 Frontend Instance Classes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/-/KWlQf8lCwQYJ. To post to this group, send email to

[appengine-java] Re: Channel API reconnect after token timeout

2011-12-05 Thread gbs63
Hi there, (First I'm french... so please apologize for my english mistakes) I'm working with GAE, using python, and get the same problem as you, to refresh tokens for users allready connected just to say... I've started a chat-script, by using a login script, with session in python: from

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE 1.6 can not import module jinja2

2011-12-05 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, speg stevehiems...@gmail.com wrote: How are we supposed to know this?  I jumped into GAE with the 2.7 tutorial and there was no mention of installing packages locally.  I thought it was all bundled in GAE. The fact that required pure-Python modules are not

[google-appengine] Blessing a GAE App within Google Apps to remove data approval notices

2011-12-05 Thread jonathon
hi, Forgive me if this is considered a GApps question rather than a GAE one, but how do we go about listing a GAE App with pre-approved scopes in GApps such that users aren't prompted with grant this app permission notices. thanks

Re: [google-appengine] Why is there a random subdomain when downloading something from Google App Engine?

2011-12-05 Thread Barry Hunter
Where are you downloading from? (and what?) On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:04 PM, misty triciam1...@yahoo.com wrote: For example, when I download something the domain will look like example.appspot.com. If I download the same file multiple times, each time there will be a different subdomain. Why

[google-appengine] DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-05 Thread Sarang
I have started getting DeadlineExceeded errors every once in a while and they are annoying and reflect poorly on the GAE and hence my app. Here is what is happening today: http://gyazo.com/364eed93a907bbf3a80b5cd3d22ec066 Is there any documented method to resolve these? As these comes and go,

[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-05 Thread voscausa
I have never seen this before. I think something is wrong with your code. Warmup will load a new instance and when this load fails, you can receive all kinds of errors. For instance when an import fails during the load. What is in the details of the logs. -- You received this message because

[google-appengine] Help!Can't create the second application

2011-12-05 Thread linxx
I already have one app-engine application Just wanted to create the second one It says that: The phone number has been sent too many messages or has already been used to confirm an account. Of course, this phone was used to confirm an account. What now? Need hep,thanks. -- You received this

[google-appengine] When Transferring Data Between GAE Apps Does It Write To Property Indexes I Have Disabled?

2011-12-05 Thread Bryce Cutt
Also posted on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/q/8390052/98138 I have a model with 15 properties and indexed=False set for each of them. When I write an entity of this model it does not write to the property indexes for those properties however when I transfer that model from one app to another it

Re: [google-appengine] The #1 Appengine Programmer Excuse for Legitimately Slacking Off

2011-12-05 Thread PK
+1 for barryhunter's first comment. Four years of development on GAE suggests, that in general, parity between the dev server and production has not been a problem. Uploading an app has been expedited recently and is adequate for its purposes but it will need to become sub-second to be

[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-05 Thread Sharp-Developer.Net
We started to get same today. Seems to be an isssue with GAE. On Dec 5, 4:34 pm, Sarang sar...@mycontactid.net wrote: I have started getting DeadlineExceeded errors every once in a while and they are annoying and reflect poorly on the GAE and hence my app. Here is what is happening today:

[google-appengine] If you use e-mail to post replies to a topic...

2011-12-05 Thread PK
Please make sure you only include your post and not the whole thread. It makes very difficult to follow the threads from e-mail digests. I think tat removing the thread is something that Google Groups needs to automate for all groups but in the meantime, I would appreciate your consideration.

[google-appengine] Re: appengine monitoring api

2011-12-05 Thread JH
I remember this going into TT a LONG time ago... seems like a simple api, very curious that it hasn't surfaced yet On Dec 5, 3:02 pm, Felippe Bueno felippe.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Anyone know something about the appengine monitoring api ? I don't have any URL. I saw Alan Green

[google-appengine] Google Gadget help

2011-12-05 Thread Charles
We have a google gadget running on our site, see the bottom right of this page: http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20546698,00.html The xml it's running is on our server, we recently made some changes to it, but it doesn't appear. I was just wondering how long does the google gadget cache

[google-appengine] DeadlineExceededError on HRD and sky-high latency (python27+threadsafe)

2011-12-05 Thread sergio.jar...@gmail.com
Hi! I've successfully migrated from master-slave to hdd with python 27 and threadsafe however I've been getting sporadically a few deadline exceeded errors (bellow stack trace excerpt). I also have configured min idle requests to automatic and maximum to 1 and pending latency to 800ms, I've

RE: [google-appengine] Google Gadget help

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Wrong forum, sorry. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:56 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Google Gadget help We have a google gadget running on

RE: [google-appengine] DeadlineExceededError on HRD and sky-high latency (python27+threadsafe)

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Allow more than one idle instance. How long is your spin-up? If you get 8 simultaneous requests and each request takes 1 second, and your spin up time is 5 seconds, then you will have time outs with the settings you describe. Consider running full auto for 24 hours and then clamping down. Also

RE: [google-appengine] Re: appengine monitoring api

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
State of your AppEngine for monitoring. I'd upload code, but we change regularly, and our case would be specific to our functions. I would put this on more than one AppID so you can check errors against more than one app to see if your issue is localized. We do this to tell if GAE is broken or

[google-appengine] Developing App using web engine and OAuth

2011-12-05 Thread Acrylix Fletcher
Hi, I am developing an app using app engine and OAuth 2.0. What I need to do is data collection and then save the data into a user's google doc in Java. I have tried the beta version of OAuth but it doesn't work for me. So far, I have register my app and redirect the user to login and redirect

[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError on HRD and sky-high latency (python27+threadsafe)

2011-12-05 Thread sergio.jar...@gmail.com
The issue is that I've seen sky-high latencies *without* the app engine even trying to spin other instances! Just right now I captured this screenshot from the management console: http://i42.tinypic.com/bhzyf7.png The above screenshot is not normal! BTW, around the same time I took the screenshot

Re: [google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError on HRD and sky-high latency (python27+threadsafe)

2011-12-05 Thread Andrius A
I can confirm that as well, don't think its related with python 2.7 or HRD. I am seeing high latencies similar to yours with python 2.5 and MS just right now, even GAE console takes ages to load and some times throws errors. I noticed that similar slowness happens few times per week, I wonder will

[google-appengine] is GAE admin panel access covered by SLA?

2011-12-05 Thread Andrius A
It is getting annoying when suddenly GAE admin panel starts behaving slowly and throws errors and its happening more often recently. I wonder is it covered by SLA for premier accounts? Is Google aware of it and can comment wether we should not expect it to work reliably 100%? Thanks, Andrius --

[google-appengine] 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi, We've uploaded the pre-release SDKs, get 'em while they are hot. As a reminder, the features listed in the pre-release SDKs notes are not available in production at this time, and documentation for them will be available when the release is officially announced. If you find any backward

Re: [google-appengine] Developing App using web engine and OAuth

2011-12-05 Thread Christina Ilvento
Hi, I would recommend this walkthrough ( http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/python/getting_started_with_tasks_api.html) for the Tasks API which should be a good place to get started with using OAuth2. Thanks, Christina On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Acrylix Fletcher longa...@gmail.com

RE: [google-appengine] Developing App using web engine and OAuth

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I ended up building an oauth in python it was far better documented than Java. You don't like Java anyway. All the cool kids run python. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina Ilvento Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:39 PM

[google-appengine] Very high request latency periods on App Engine

2011-12-05 Thread Alex Epshteyn
Last week I started noticing periods of very high request latency in my app lasting for many hours and even days. These are not correlated to the traffic patterns in my app, and so I assume it's an issue that affects all of app engine. Looking at the logs, it seems that some requests are

[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError on HRD and sky-high latency (python27+threadsafe)

2011-12-05 Thread Alex Epshteyn
I've been experiencing the same issues lately. I'm on py 2.5 and MS datastore. Didn't see this thread, so started my own: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/31d1c228070ac09b# Also filed an issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6447

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Michael Quartly
What are the 2 Frontend Instance classes we will be able to choose from? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/SCM6ZmxWFuYJ. To post to

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Michael Quartly
*3 Frontend Instance Classes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/KWlQf8lCwQYJ. To post to this group, send email to

RE: [google-appengine] Very high request latency periods on App Engine

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
What is the max idle instances? If a request takes 1000ms, and you get 8 at the same time, with 1 Idle instance and a 5s spin up you would have time outs with these settings. Safe Rule If Max pending latency is set to less than the average request time: Idle instances must always be = Spin-up

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Kaan Soral
Great to hear, I've been checking this group for 3 weeks, hoping to see 1.6.1 news, and now I caught this one in an hour =) By the way, did you fix this problem too?: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6282 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[google-appengine] Re: is GAE admin panel access covered by SLA?

2011-12-05 Thread JH
+1. Admin console is extremely unreliable. It seems every time I use it response times are extremely slow or result in 500's. On Dec 5, 4:47 pm, Andrius A andriu...@gmail.com wrote: It is getting annoying when suddenly GAE admin panel starts behaving slowly and throws errors and its happening

[google-appengine] Re: Very high request latency periods on App Engine

2011-12-05 Thread bFlood
seeing the same thing on one of my older M/S apps. Nothing has changed in code but most of the request have huge latency with most in the pending_ms queue. I started messing with the sliders to see if anything worked but prior to that (when its been busted for several days), the sliders were both

Re: [google-appengine] Re: is GAE admin panel access covered by SLA?

2011-12-05 Thread Gregory D'alesandre
The Admin Console has no SLA. We are working on migrating the Admin Console app to HRD which will improve its reliability dramatically at that point we will re-evaluate whether we can do an SLA for it. Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:00 PM, JH

[google-appengine] Max Idle, Max Pending Latency

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I'm too lazy to build a tool to calculate this for you. The Formula for non-concurrent tasks is pretty simple. How many simultaneous requests do you need to handle? (Hint Chrome will request 8 assets at a time) If you don't know I'm telling you it is 10. Great. So you need to

RE: [google-appengine] Re: is GAE admin panel access covered by SLA?

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Sure it is under the SLA... anytime you go over 10% requests failing... Just make sure your Admin requests are greater than 10% of your hourly requests when it is acting up. (you may needs some automation to get there if you have a large app) ;-) -Original Message- From:

[google-appengine] Re: is GAE admin panel access covered by SLA?

2011-12-05 Thread JH
wow, had no idea it was M/S... no wonder it's reliability is so poor... #FlashbackToMSDays On Dec 5, 7:09 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: The Admin Console has no SLA.  We are working on migrating the Admin Console app to HRD which will improve its reliability dramatically at

Re: [google-appengine] Developing App using web engine and OAuth

2011-12-05 Thread darrell dupas
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: I ended up building an oauth in python it was far better documented than Java.  You don’t like Java anyway. All the cool kids run python. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com

[google-appengine] How to catch Out of Memory errors?

2011-12-05 Thread Waleed Abdulla
I'm getting a lot of Out of Memory errors, and when that happens GAE just kills the instance right away and all I see in the logs is something like this: Exceeded soft private memory limit with 277.09 MB after servicing 1 requests total To find where the problem is, I put logging.info()

[google-appengine] Why am I not allowed to reserve backend instance hours?

2011-12-05 Thread Waleed Abdulla
In billing, I can pre-commit to X instance hours for the week and I get a discounted price, $0.05 per hour as opposed to $0.08. So far so good. Recently, I've been moving my tasks and cron jobs to backend instances so that there is a clean separation between what needs to execute right away and

[google-appengine] django-social-auth fails repeatedly with DeadlineExceededError

2011-12-05 Thread Rob
Sometime in the last few months my application has started to repeatedly fail when attempting to login with Google Accounts credentials. The error I get is: Sorry, there seems to be a problem. The service you're looking for is temporarily unavailable. We're working hard to restore your access as

[google-appengine] Can't store strings with apostrophes in the datastore

2011-12-05 Thread bwal...@gmail.com
I'm using GAE's Youtube API to retrieve video info. When either the title or description contains an apostrophe, it gets cut off. For example, if the title of the the video is You'll love this, the only thing that gets put in the datastore is You. I've looked over all my code and I can't figure

RE: [google-appengine] How to catch Out of Memory errors?

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Add your own events to put in the log, and they will be. Instance started, Defined some variables Started a loop Looped Looped again count 1 Looped again count 2-infinity Finished looping Wrote something to datastore Output the HTML Life is happy That Kind of stuff. Along the

RE: [google-appengine] Why am I not allowed to reserve backend instance hours?

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
You get 28 free hours unless you are only getting a bill for backend hours does it matter if the free hours are for front or back? From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Waleed Abdulla Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:28 PM To:

[google-appengine] DNS by IP Range, Where does Google Get it's DNS?

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I realize this is a question for the search team, but they tell me it is confidential, which considering the stuff they tell me anyway I think means they don't know. Can I set DNS that is provided to Google/ Google Bot to be different than what it is for the rest of the world? I would like to

Re: [google-appengine] How to catch Out of Memory errors?

2011-12-05 Thread Waleed Abdulla
That's the problem, nothing I log gets recorded. It's like when the instance is killed, everything is deleted, including any events that were logged before that point. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: Add your own events to put in the log, and they

Re: [google-appengine] Why am I not allowed to reserve backend instance hours?

2011-12-05 Thread Waleed Abdulla
I think you misunderstood the question. I'm not asking about the free hours. I'm asking about the hours I pre-commit to pay for. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: You get 28 free hours unless you are only getting a bill for backend hours does it

RE: [google-appengine] How to catch Out of Memory errors?

2011-12-05 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Hmm. I don't think that happens for me. Are you dying at spin up? From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Waleed Abdulla Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:56 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] How

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Anand Mistry
Yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/2uaWVCEetC4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Westmark
I would be happy if you could specify the versions of included third- party libraries, e.g. ndb and webapp2. Cheers / Fredrik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.1 Pre-release SDKs are live

2011-12-05 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Westmark fredrik.westm...@gmail.com wrote: I would be happy if you could specify the versions of included third- party libraries, e.g. ndb and webapp2. ndb is being integrated into the google namespace so it isn't really third-party anymore. You can specify the