I think a lot is being read into the photo simply because the question of PM or
not was asked. I see this all the time on PM or not photos. Ask yourselves
honestly whether you would still be seeing so much evidence of death if Penny
had simply posted a picture saying look at this photo of my
I disagree. I don't think it is post-mortem. First of all, why would they do it
with him standing when the grouping would have been just as pleasant with him
sitting. That would be much more likely if he was post mortem. There is no
indication that he is not holding his own weight on his legs.
I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just
from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or
anything. :)
http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/
Teena
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On a less contentious topic ;-) I thought this was really cool. The RIT dye
website gives the formula for recreating the pantone seasonal colors using
their dyes.
Pantone Seasonal Colors #RitDye
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| Pantone Seasonal Colors #RitDyePantone Seasonal Colors Change
Sorry looks like Yahoo ate the link. Here it is:
https://www.ritstudio.com/color-library/pantone-seasonal-colors/
Teena
From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:02 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Getting
Actually, I was not reading into it. I was not stating that the children were
being yelled at. I was simply giving several possible alternative reasons for
their facial expressions that did not include being upset that someone was
dead. My point being that you can't assume that the child in the
Marjorie said: Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the
company (not Amazon DG, the pattern produceer)?
I have their regency pattern which was a similar price as I recall. That one is
a fantastic pattern and worth the price because it contains patterns for a
bunch of
Ann Wass said: So far, I'm resisting Pinterest. Facebook is enough of a time
waster. I would probably NEVER get anything done if I got caught up in
Pinterest. (Occasionally, friends do share pins, but, alas, many pinners don't
document worth a darn--so we don't know WHERE that purty pitcher
I'm finishing up my 18th century stays this weekend and a bum pad. Not very
exciting, but necessary in order to move on to the pretties!
Teena
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We recently moved back to the US after living in the UK for five years. While
there, I never got used to the word pants meaning underwear. It was very
embarrassing when we went into a Starbucks out of a downpour where the water
had come up to my ankles. I turned with disgust to my husband and
Not sure how many you need, but I found these vintage ones on Etsy. They only
have 10 though. (Disclaimer: not affiliated with seller in any way.)
http://www.etsy.com/listing/123790859/vintage-grey-half-dome-pearl-buttons
Teena
From: annbw...@aol.com
I have a pair of the debbie style and I LOVE them. They are one of my most
favorite pairs of shoes to wear. The first time I wore them was to a dance
event and my feet didn't hurt one bit even though I hadn't had a chance to
break them in first. Of course, everyone's feet are shaped different
Katy said: I have the Victoria boots and I love them, they were comfortable
from the first wearing.
I have two pairs of those too. And, again, comfortable right out of the box!
With those, I think I went with the true size and didn't have to go up a half
size.
Teena
I'm not sure that listing is the same company... or at least that they are
operating in the same way and offering the same items as Grannd Garb (the
correct spelling). I found this on the interwebs:
Grannd Companies is undergoing changes. Customers with pending orders will be
contacted shortly
Liz, have you tried sockdreams.com? They are not specific for reenactors or
anything like that, but they have such a wide variety of stuff that they may
have what you need. I buy their over the knee and thigh-high striped socks for
my victorian wear. They also have things that fit larger legs.
Lauren, I should have finished reading my email before responding to Liz. You
beat me to it! ;-)
As a warning to others, sockdreams can become an addiction!
Teena
From: lauren.wal...@comcast.net lauren.wal...@comcast.net
To: Historical Costume
I'll still see it. The costumes, as seen in the trailer, are beautiful. So even
if the movie is less than steller, I will enjoy that. Besides, I disagree often
enough with critics that I don't let them make my decisions for me anymore.
Teena
From: Lavolta
The tunic is called a Kameez (spellings vary) and the scarf is a Dupatta.
Normally they are worn with salwar or shalwar (or other spellings depending on
region) which are loose trousers or churidar (again spellings vary!) which are
tight legging type trousers. I tried to google around to see
I found something. Someone on a forum or something like that was asking about a
Kameez Lengha (sometimes spelled lahenga) which is the tunic with the skirt. I
guess Lengha means skirt. Anyway, they were saying that this was the Pakistani
style as opposed to the lengha choli which is more of an
Is that something any 4 thread serger can do? Or is it a specialty machine?
Teena
From: Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: [h-cost] chain stitch
You can buy a serger
, 2012 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] pinning
You wouldn't have the Singer 2277 Tradition by any chance? That is the brand
new White Elephant in my garage.
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com/
On 9/21/2012 9:13 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote:
Some modern machines will sew over pins. Most
I don't know if you belong to Your Wardorbe Unlock'd or not, but I recall
seeing some how-to articles on hair pieces by Lynn McMasters and others.
But if you aren't a member, just google making hair pieces or something
similar and you should find a lot of tutorials on making your own hair
-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and
the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click
on those!
Lauren M. Walker
lauren.wal...@comcast.net
On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Beteena Paradise
on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on
to some actual content.
Fran
Lavolta Press
Books of historic clothing patterns
http://www.lavoltapress.com/
On 9/21/2012 9:01 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote:
Lauren said: PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus
Some modern machines will sew over pins. Most of the time, I remove them as I
sew, but there is one task which requires me to leave the pins in and just sew
over them. I've dented a pin once or twice, but never had any issue with the
machine itself nor have I broken any needles. I've done this
Fran,
Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are
viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current
norm for email etiquette.
Teena
From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com
To: Historical Costume
I know someone in England who does 15th century War of the Roses living history
and she wears a hood to cover her very bright cherry red hair. I don't know
what style of 15th/16th century clothing you wear, but there is probably a type
of headwear that can cover your hair completely while still
Sorry forgot to talk about the Regency stuff... I don't know how old you are,
but if you are not in the first blush of youth, you could get away with wearing
a pretty cap for Regency day (which would look lovely under your bonnet when
you go outside) and a turban for regency evening.
Teena
Wow what a great place! Too bad they don't have one in Florida. It would be a
great place to try out certain crafts (like woodworking) without having to buy
all of the equipment.
Teena
From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
, I do have had a business
relationship with them for 6 years.)
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Beteena Paradise
bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote:
Wow what a great place! Too bad they don't have one in Florida. It would be a
great place to try out
I purchased my rotary pinker at Joanns. It is an Olfa and seems to be pretty
commonly found. I've only used it on long strips that are going to be ruched
decoration (18th century). I much prefer the shears for most jobs.
Teena
From: Franchesca Havas
I have a pair of Fiskers and have never had any problem, but I think I have
only used them on silk taffeta and plain cotton. Maybe your technique is ok but
the fabric just doesn't want to cooperate?
Teena
From: Lauren Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net
To:
Patty said: My mother always used to save the last bits of the Ivory bar put
them in a jar with some water. She'd use the goop to hand wash things.
My grandmother did this too. :) I just use Woolite. I've never had reason to
switch (at least yet), but I'll remember the suggestions here if I
Then I guess I hit the lottery 4 times in a row because all of my Singers have
been purchased since 1990 and I haven't had a single problem. ;-) And even if
I had gotten a bad one, I could buy 50 Singer sewing machines for the price of
that one $10K machine.I'm sure it sews magnificantly (it
I know lots of people go fancy... But I love my brother serger like the
dickens! It is a 4 thread machine and threads up like a dream. I rarely need to
adjust it even after moving it from UK to US last February. It just goes and
goes and goes!
Teena
From:
I know I'll be unpopular, but I have always had a Singer sewing machine. I've
upgraded and replaced them but never because the machine stopped working. I now
have 3 Singers. I had 4 but I gave away my oldest one to some college kids who
wanted to start costuming. One I keep as a backup machine
I don't know of any email lists, but I just googled bra construction and the
first page seems to all be sites about actual bra construction, patterns, etc.
Hope this helps.
Teena
From: lili...@earthlink.net lili...@earthlink.net
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent:
I have been there a few times, but haven't found a lot for historic costume,
unfortunately. However, I'd like to recommend a restaurant that is so
delicious. We always eat there when we visit. The name is Kantjil de Tijger.
It is an Indonesian restaurant. Indonesian cuisine is very much a part
Yeah the Herald book sells for hundreds of dollars.
Teena
From: Franchesca Havas franchesca.ha...@gmail.com
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] historical costume books
You have two books
find it
here. http://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdf
I sent out both links initially, but not to HCost, ah well.
There's more information out there. I'm still finding items on it.
Bridgette
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Beteena Paradise
bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote:
I
I tried to read the BBC story but you have to have a subscription,
unfortunately. However, I did notice that every news story out there seemed to
stem from the Daily Mail story. And that is too bad. I am not discounting the
importance of the find and the resulting research that will be
The article was in the Daily Mail. It was probably right next to an article
about seeing the Virgin Mary on a pancake and having an alien as a brother in
law.
Teena
From: Linda Rice vm...@cox.net
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tuesday,
to seeing further publication of the finds. It looks
really interesting.
Ginni
Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com 7/17/12 10:52 AM
The article was in the Daily Mail. It was probably right next to an article
about seeing the Virgin Mary on a pancake and having an alien as a brother in
law
To me it sounds a bit like what you see so often at a renn faire. Her smock
with a sleeveless bodice over it and a skirt.
Teena
From: Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:53 PM
: Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
What was 'undress' in this time period re at home...or stage door expectation
-Original Message-
From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com
Sent 7/10/2012 6:06:19 PM
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell GwynTo me it sounds a bit
As support to my statement that the whip is the driver of the coach. Here is a
website about an event in Newport which sounds lovely:
http://www.newportmansions.org/events/a-weekend-of-coaching
A quote from the text on that website: All seating is outside, with the
driver, known as a whip,
The whip is the one driving the coach. The dress only apply if he is the host
and not a hired/employed coachman.
Teena
From: penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com
To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:41 AM
I went to one several years ago before we moved to England. I very much enjoyed
it. Our own Robin Netherton was one of the lecturers that year.
Where is it being held this year?
Teena
From: Simone Bryan cil...@dracolore.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent:
Not sure how many images are out there for England during that period. I heard
that it was because so many were destroyed... something associated with the
war. Not sure if that is true or not. I was briefly associated with a 15th
century group (didn't join as we found out we were moving away)
http://www.thaisilks.com/ has a great selection and are very good about sending
swatches and such. I used to buy from them a few years ago and the quality was
excellent.
Teena
From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com
To: Historical Costume
I have a Rowenta and I love it. But I don't really use it much with water in
it. I prefer to use a bottle to spray water as I iron so that I can use
lavender ironing water. It smells so nice!
Teena
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1. One that can actually be shaped like you. Many of us can never be matched
with the hard dial type ones.
2. One that you can push pins into
My recommendation is for the Uniquely You dress form. It is made of hard foam
and you fit the fabric cover to your body (they include instructions for
a tutorial on how to make a sloper for a body
(and then use it) by padding up a smaller dress dummy for a perfect fit!!
Pretty awesome for folks who sew for a variety of body shapes.
Sg
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Beteena Paradise
bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote:
1. One that can
I'm working on finishing two UFO GFDs. All that is left is hems and about a
zillion button holes.
Teena
From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com
To: H-costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing
your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
GFDs
???
Ann Wass
-Original Message-
From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
I'm working
Amazon.com has all of this stuff too.
Teena
From: Sharon Henderson henderson.sha...@gmail.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch
Hi folks,
The eBay seller chick1154 sells Kershaw's Laundry
My husband says the same thing! He says that they cancel the good stuff because
it is too much work to keep restocking. :)
Teena
From: Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:58 PM
I don't know of any costume collections in those towns specifically, but when
you are Lucca be sure to see... I don't know what it is called, but it is a
collection of buildings built in a circle. It is very cool! The town is
darling. You'll like it. :) A few years ago I stayed in Montecatini
I'm not sure if you mean patterns for making the netting part of the snoods or
for the decorated snoods. If it is the latter, Butterick put out a pattern of
different styles of snoods suitable for civil war. I haven't compared them
specifically to Godey's or anything but a few of them looked
I've always gotten it from Thai Silks.
http://www.thaisilks.com/index.php?cPath=1_21
They also have a wholesale store (Exotic Silks) for those who buy larger
quantities.
http://www.exoticsilks.com/index.php?cPath=1_21osCsid=cha05th5ar0ej0h1u9jnqtev56
Teena
The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species
from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed
that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It
took several months before it was completely gone. I had no
. You can freeze the flour etc. if
you want, but the best defense is to be able to see the moths or grubs BEFORE
they get out into your house. Yes, it can take a year (or more) to clear an
infestation once you have it.
--RA Baumgartner
-Original Message-
From: Beteena Paradise bete
My impression was always that it was a heavier cotton cloth. It was made into
sturdy boots/halfboots for wearing when walking. And men's trousers were made
of it. Sheeting would not make very good men's trousers. ;-) I always
envisioned it as the weight of a thin denim/twill though not
Not sure about the hanging part, but ziplock makes some giant ziplock bags.
They are pretty sturdy. I use them to organize projects and they come in 3
different sizes. The large is a good size for needlework projects and the xxl
is almost big enough for a comforter.
I have to strongly disagree with you, Patricia, about the gowns not looking
like Italian ren. If you look at portraits by Ghirlandaio you will see that the
gowns (especially the one on the right) are exactly the same. The fabrics are
different and the richer ones are obviously a nicer fabric,
I second the recommendation of Atlanta Thread. I bought my Uniquely You from
there and they were wonderful to work with (I had special shipping
requirements). And they also have great sales on other stuff if you want to
sign up for their email flyer.
Teena
If remaking the sack suit doesn't work, fashionfabricsclub.com is having a sale
on wool this week. Wool coating is going for $11.95.
Teena
From: Angelique Carlson subversivey...@me.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011
This is the only reference I could find for it. (at the bottom)
http://www.vintage123.com/?p=932
Teena
From: Astrida Schaeffer astr...@schaefferarts.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 2:19 PM
Subject: [h-cost] mystery
If you google Prom 1975 and then filter it so that you just see the images,
there are tons of prom pictures. :)
From: Sheridan shaneandsheri...@sympatico.ca
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [h-cost]
On the About Me page it gives this email address: makingpatt...@gmail.com
Teena
From: Galadriel galadrielfi...@yahoo.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:29 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Venting a bit: sourcing
I was looking up notched
Which is why I love the cage crinoline so much more than a regular crinoline.
That doesn't happen. It folds nicely. :) I bet they felt the same!
Teena
From: WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent:
But that doesn't mean the costumes aren't excessive!
Ann Wass
Isn't that the point? Would we all be discussing the picture galleries if they
weren't excessive? Heck, would there even be picture galleries if that wasn't
the case? ;-)
Teena
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Teena
From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 2:14:15 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] dressing pins for 19th cdresses
Dress U? Please give us more information - where and when
Penny said:
If I was tech savvy enough (and I am not), I would develop apps for
costuming. There you go...someone smart enough go for it! Just send me a
thank you card when you are rich! I love apps!
They have great apps for sewing though. Unfortunately they are only for the
iPhone
How about period sources like La Mode Illustree, Godey's Lady's Book, Harper's
Bazar, etc? Also on ebay you can often find original period magazines with
patterns. :)
Teena
From: Maggie Halberg hhalb94...@aol.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Mon, August 8,
I joined sometime between 2002 and 2003 because I was living in Atlanta at the
time. Does anyone else mark time by where they lived? Gotta love the army!
Anyway, I don't remember where I heard about this list. I just remember that it
had something to do with Robin Netherton. I don't know if she
There is actually a large and thriving historic costuming community. I just
don't think they are represented on this list. With no insult intended for
anyone, I think what is dying is this list rather than historic
costuming/reenactment community. Of all of the people I know in my own
Lots of people on blogs.
From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Sat, August 6, 2011 8:37:22 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
For well over a year, I've been noticing a relative
The live journal community is VERY strong. It isn't a group reading a
journalistic type of blog. It is all of us reading each others personal blogs
and interacting as a community. These days LJ has been under a lot of attack so
some people are moving to dream(something that I can't remember the
:09 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote:
The live journal community is VERY strong. It isn't a group reading a
journalistic type of blog. It is all of us reading each others personal blogs
and interacting as a community. These days LJ has been under a lot of attack
so
some people are moving to dream
If you are looking for a little visual candy in addition to the lovely book
suggestions, the miniseries The Buccaneers had some lovely seaside looks, iirc.
Think white and pale colors (or colors striped with white) in light fabrics
like
lawn and ruffles. :) So yummy!
Teena
I have three photos which show gowns from the 1840s like you are describing.
There are two photos of extant gowns and one is a photograph of a bunch of
women. The address to the folder is:
http://s522.photobucket.com/albums/w344/my_stitching/For%20Elizabeth%20Walpole/
I could probably come up
If you have the book Medieval Tailor's Assistant, I am pretty it she covers how
to make such headdresses. Otherwise, perhaps Cynthia Virtue's website?
http://www.virtue.to/articles/
Teena
From: Guenievre de Monmarche guenie...@erminespot.com
To: Historical
I was surprised by this because I had never heard it used in such a way. I had
always heard it used to mean woman or wife. Granted, it is a condescending
racist term but certainly not an obscene or sexual one. So I looked at wiki to
see what it said. It does mention the vagina issue but said it
To me they look like the grown up versions of the cupcake skirts worn by little
girls in glitz pageants.
From: annbw...@aol.com annbw...@aol.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 11:14:05 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Azalea Trail Maids: Antebellum
I think it said that they make their own drawers. To me, it gave the impression
that they could express themselves with the drawers as they wouldn't be seen. I
could be wrong, but it makes me smile to think someone has a pair of drawers on
under those skirts made out of some crazy quilting
I made the mantua from that Reconstructing History pattern and it went together
pretty easily. I stumbled a little bit over the garment being pleated to the
body for fitting as I had never done it before. You definitely need another
pair
of hands. The only thing I remember being off was the
I have a Panasonic Lumix and loved it. Actually, I had two because the one
before was a Lumix also. But this past fall my husband wanted a new camera for
his birthday and got the Sony Cybershot. The one with 14.1 megapixels and 10x
optical zoom. I didn't think we needed it, but it was what he
I was in Copenhagen for a few days last week and was hoping to see it, but I
couldn't remember which museum you said it was for. It really is stunning. I'm
also glad you are back. Are you coming back to LJ too?
Teena
From: Leif og Bjarne Drews
I think it depends on what they are trying to say. If they are saying Who wore
it first? then it opens up the spectrum to any who ever lived. But if they are
specifically saying Who made it a trend? then I think the answer is obviously
Queen Victoria. Prior to Queen Victoria, it wasn't the
There have been two other versions that come to mind. At least one of them was
called Valmont. But the Glenn Close/John Malkovich one is the best all around,
in my opinion. And didn't you love that image where Glenn Close gets out of the
carriage and her face is hidden by the hat and then she
How about this one?
http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Lovers-Morning-Recreation-Sarony-Major-1850.jpg/85px-Lovers-Morning-Recreation-Sarony-Major-1850.jpg
From: Laurie Taylor costumer...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume
] On
Behalf Of Beteena Paradise
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 7:42 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Image search - Romantic period
How about this one?
http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Lovers-Morning-Rec
reation-Sarony-Major-1850.jpg/85px-Lovers-Morning
I have a cage crinoline which is pretty big. I twist it upon itself and put it
in a bag. I have a cloth bag but have also been known to use a giant ziplock
depending on the circumstances.
Teena
From: Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com
To: Historical
Textiles and clothing has some images and information about buttons sewn to the
edge. I believe it is a piece of sleeve.
From: Hanna Zickermann h.zickerm...@gmx.de
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 8:54:34 PM
Subject: Re:
Recently, I was given some information which seems wrong to me. I was told that
I should be using twill tape to stablize the neck and front opening of a
(pre-tudor) mid-15th century laced front kirtle. To me, that sounds like a
modern sewing technique, but the woman who told me this said that
Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 7:19:58 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 15th c sewing technique
On 02/12/2011 01:18 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote:
Recently, I was given some information which seems wrong to me. I was told
that
I should be using twill tape to stablize the neck
Do you think it is one of those situations where they had gowns designed to be
identical? Princess Alexandra of Wales (mother of Maud) and G.D. Maria
Feodorovna of Russia (aka Dagmar of Denmark) did that even as adults, but they
were sisters.
From: R Lloyd
I have one example, but the contrasting piping is only at the waistline and is
really a decorative element. I have uploaded the pictures of the gown if you
are
interested in looking. The gown is from 1867.
http://s522.photobucket.com/albums/w344/my_stitching/Piping%20example/
I found some a year or so ago on Ebay. I'm sorry that I can't remember the
vendor's name but they were in Hong Kong and the shipping was pretty fast.
Prices were outstanding.
From: Daniel Fenwick dan...@fenwick.sparks.nv.us
To: Historical Costume
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