AlbertCat wrote:
Where might the bride be going after the wedding? To the train station
to
commence the honeymoon? To a big whoop-de-do dinner after the
ceremony? How
might that affect things?
It's not 'til like the 1830's that special wedding dresses come into
play in
the 1st place, isn't
Hi all,
I need a little help: I'm looking for pictures and patterns for this kind of
dress: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schaube.PNG
it is called Schaube in German, originally from arabian aljubbeh or
something like that. Somewhere I found that it is also called robe, which is
Koehlers A History of Costume have a pattern cut of a Schaube for a man.
Bjarne
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From: Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Schaube
Hi all,
I need a little help:
I need a little help: I'm looking for pictures and patterns for this
kind of dress: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schaube.PNG
it is called Schaube in German, originally from arabian aljubbeh or
something like that. Somewhere I found that it is also called robe, which
is probably not very
Reading this thread, and the questions about necklines and sleeves, I
wonder did it have any effect that a wedding dress is made for going to
church, in the first place? Even quite recently, many people would
frown upon a wedding dress that was off the shoulder or sleeveless - it
might be
I'm hoping someone on this list will know a seamstress
in Houston willing to make a wedding dress for my
future sister-in-law. The wedding is planned for
October. She knows the style she wants and she wants
silk satin. She's a lovely person who has a very nice
figure. She'll look great in it.
How about the garment Christine of Denmark wears. Its made of fur. Holbein
painted her, scroll down to find it on the right side..
http://www.italy.dk/turisme/lombardia/milano/mi-castello.htm
Bjarne
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From: michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical
You have probably seen these but just in case, Victorian wedding dresses
http://tinyurl.com/y2eg4f
http://tinyurl.com/y92ao6
http://tinyurl.com/y5aaga
http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781=list=271=dre
http://tinyurl.com/yajfmh
http://tinyurl.com/y4p2mu
In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:08:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781=list=271=dre
I really like this one. If I were designing a show that needed such a
costume, I'd steal this one. Yummy!
Just my 2 cents
It seems to me that the term schaube has the same problem as the term coat
or jacket in modern terms. We call all jackets the same thing but it does
not indicate what style they are (long, short, leather, wool, nylon, etc.)
So perhaps a schaube to them was just a term for
Robin, thank you for sending us that link. It's only fabulous!
Warning in case someone is thinking of making that dress, even for a
doll: I do some net beading - my sister calls it the insane beading -
and the way that net dress was reproduced promises that it would never
survive a day of wear
Greetings to all,
I have a different question about this book. To those of you in the US
who got it when it first became available: how much did you pay for it,
and when was that? I'm trying to establish the original price of this
book to see how much it's gone up and how fast.
The book
My question is that one of the sites given for this dress states that when
they restrung the dress they did not use all of the bead. Something like 1/4
(sorry pulling from memory) of the beads were not restrung on the dress so
what we are seeing, is it more that they have restrung to match the
I had not noticed before but this has a vest(?) on it.
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http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781=list=271=dre
I really like this one. If I were designing a show that needed such a
costume, I'd steal this one. Yummy!
I had not seen them, thank you for sharing. They are beautiful.
Vicky
otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have probably seen these but just in case, Victorian wedding dresses
http://tinyurl.com/y2eg4f
http://tinyurl.com/y92ao6
http://tinyurl.com/y5aaga
In a message dated 1/5/2007 2:37:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but this has a vest(?) on it.
*
If you zoom in you will see that there is lace coming from the bodice
peaking up from behind the skirt. Something is going on in the back. Maybe
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since we're talking about ancient costume, and somebody mentioned
Jewish, does anybody know any reliable books on Biblical costume? I've
always wanted to sculpt a Nativity scene, but I have no idea as to
what appropriate costumes would look like.
I was poking around on the Polistampa website, which I believe is the publisher
of the Moda a Firenze book. They have a notice on the site that they will
reprint the book and it will be available in April 2007. If you pre-order it
now, you get a 30% discount (off of 58 Euros). However, if
I went to the site, but didn't see notice of a discount.
Patty
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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze - reprint
I was poking around on the
A few years ago in a Costume Society of America journal there was an
article on this same wedding dress, there might have even been a
pattern diagram. It might have been 1990: Fashion on the Frontier.
Can't find the issue at the moment. I seem to recall the owner was
heading west to get married
Quoting Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was poking around on the Polistampa website, which I believe is
the publisher of the Moda a Firenze book. They have a notice on the
site that they will reprint the book and it will be available in
April 2007. If you pre-order it now, you get a 30%
About the San Francisco wedding dress:
There is an article in Dress,The Annual Journal of the Costume Society of
America 1980, Volume 5. The article written by Shane Alder is entitled A
Diary and a Dress.
The dress was made by (for?) Mehitable Berry Felton to wear at her wedding
to James
Lynn,
I too have had an interest in ancient Egypt's history since a child.
I took a week long masters level class in Egyptian art. They brought in
experts from all the world to lecture. One expert had been doing Egyptian
archaeology at one site since the early 1960s. These experts could
Since we're talking about ancient costume, and somebody mentioned Jewish, does
anybody know any reliable books on Biblical costume? I've always wanted to
sculpt a Nativity scene, but I have no idea as to what appropriate costumes
would look like. I did an admittedly shallow search a couple of
I was going to respond to this as part of my previous post, but it seemed
to deserve its own subject line...
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robin, I intend to be at CostumeCon for your lecture, but I haven't
registered yet. I hope there's still room; I'm really excited about
it!
Thanks, I remembered the article, but could not put my hand on the
issue. The dress is lovely. I've always wanted to copy it.
Katy
On 1/5/07, Dawn Luckham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About the San Francisco wedding dress:
There is an article in Dress,The Annual Journal of the Costume Society
I fell in love with the clothes worn by Naomi Watts in The Painted Veil.
It's set in the mid-1920s, and the clothes (designed by Ruth Meyer) follow
somewhat her character's development from a spoiled
flightly socialite to someone rather different (no spoilers).
Does anybody know how
If you want one like the Henry VIII robe, there's a pattern in the Tudor
Tailor book.
Here are some dress diaries for women's schaubes:
http://www.curiousfrau.com/Diaries/Schaube.htm
http://myra.hem.nu/costume/DressDairies/Schaube/Schaube_Dairy.htm
On Friday 05 January 2007 12:51 pm, Lynn Downward wrote:
Robin, thank you for sending us that link. It's only fabulous!
Warning in case someone is thinking of making that dress, even for a
doll: I do some net beading - my sister calls it the insane beading -
and the way that net dress was
Schaube is the German word for what the English called a gown, according to
Cunnington's book (Handbook of English Costume in the 16th Century). Another
term used in England for what is probably the Henry VIII style gown is
shamew, chammer, or chymer. However, the descriptions for both appear
The overrobe part is called a gown, among other terms (see my other post on
that). The part with the skirt at later times was called a jerkin, but early on
in the 16th c. was termed a jacquette or jacket. The jacket would have the U
shaped opening, or sometimes V shaped, or closed down the
Dental floss would be one option, but ever since I discovered kevlar beading
thread, I haven't used dental floss again. The kevlar is nice and thin like
regular thread, cuts easily, and doesn't fray like dental floss. Just an
alternative
LuAnn in Washington
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Speaking of ancient costume history, are any of you expert in the
field of Mesopotamian costume? I'm wondering what else might have been
dug up in that area since I studied costume history. Anyone know any
good books on the subject?
Sylrog
Not so much costume as cooking... but the
On Fri Jan 5 14:18 , 'otsisto' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
I had not noticed before but this has a vest(?) on it.
It's not a vest. It's a shaped fichu; triangular back ending at the waist, long
tails that come over the shoulder then wrap to the back and tie. It is trimmed
with
box pleated
Maybe a bolero ?
Susan
Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark
Trail by Louis L'Amour
On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/5/2007 2:37:47 P.M. Eastern Standard
I love this site's zoom. :) I wonder if the lace seen on the back of the
skirt is a ruffle or bow.
Yeah, the drawback with this site is that you can't see the back. :P
De
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If you zoom in you will see that there is lace coming from the bodice
peaking up from behind the
I wore an off the shoulder wedding gown in 1978 in a Baptist church. No one
frowned upon it.
Penny Ladnier,
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
www.costumelibrary.com
www.costumeclassroom.com
www.costumeencyclopedia.com
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Yes, I plan on going to CostumeCon. Mostly for the Netherton
sequence ;-) but what the heck, might as well stay for Sunday,
too. Since I've never gone before, what do I need to know ahead of
time? Costuming is a hobby, not my profession, so
size D beading floss works about the same and is a little cheaper the
dental floss. But if you can't get beading floss then dental is the way to
go. And if you do not want to repair beadwork on a garment that you created
DO NOT use regular sewing thread, no matter how much the thread matches.
Luann,
Where do you purchase the Kevlar thread? I am dealing with metal beads from
the 1920s and scared they might cut the thread.
Penny Ladnier,
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
www.costumelibrary.com
www.costumeclassroom.com
www.costumeencyclopedia.com
I have heard about that theory, but I didn't know the name of the historian.
It makes a lot of sense to me; I've seen replicas of those ancient
split-level houses on TV.
Regarding the resonance of the scene in the barn, you have a point. I guess
the modern concept of a Nativity scene is a
Actually, the main draw for me is that it's within driving distance of where
I live. I SO wish there was more costuming stuff near Kansas City. (Is a
Dickens Fair too much to ask?)
But I'll be happy to tell them it's all about the historical lectures. :)
Dawn and I wanted to go last
Penny, I get mine at the local bead shop, but if you Google kevlar beading
thread it can be mail ordered for about $2.50 a spool.
HTH--
LuAnn
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From: Penny Ladniermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January
At 09:11 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:34:11 -0600
From: Suzanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon and projects
Answering more than one question at once:
Yes, I plan on going to CostumeCon. Mostly for the Netherton
sequence ;-) but what the heck, might as
At 09:06 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:33:47 -0600 (CST)
From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon (was: Movies and ancient costume)
At this point, I think they haven't assigned rooms yet, because they're
still working out the other panels.
Yes,
Thank you Luann!
Penny Ladnier,
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
www.costumelibrary.com
www.costumeclassroom.com
www.costumeencyclopedia.com
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No problem, Penny. I think you'll be pleased with the results. It's not
period, of course, but it is effective and doesn't visually detract from the
final appearance.
LuAnn
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On Friday 05 January 2007 8:33 pm, LuAnn Mason wrote:
Dental floss would be one option, but ever since I discovered kevlar
beading thread, I haven't used dental floss again. The kevlar is nice and
thin like regular thread, cuts easily, and doesn't fray like dental floss.
Just an
On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:23 am, LuAnn Mason wrote:
Penny, I get mine at the local bead shop, but if you Google kevlar beading
thread it can be mail ordered for about $2.50 a spool.
Sorry, I missed this message the first time! Please ignore my reply a;sking
the same question. Thanks.
I'm planning to go to CostumeCon, too. It'll be my first one, and I plan to
make a few things to wear there, but I'm still trying to figure out what I
should make for it (other than my one Impressive Gown, and that piratish
coat I've been meaning to make all this past year but never got around
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, E House wrote:
I'd say let's all figure out a way to meet up while we're there, but I
expect we'll all be meeting in Robin's classes, anyway!
Y'know, the obvious thing would be for the h-cost people to meet either
before my official class time, or during the lunch break. I
Sadly it looks like I will have to miss the Con. I am in the process of
looking for a new vehicle and so my finances will be tight. :(
It's wittled down to a Matrix and a CR-V.
De
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