[h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Saragrace Knauf
Ah Ha! http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under dress with this kind of cuff... Sg FYI - If you ever need a hi res picture of this collection, they are very helpful...a few years

RE: [h-cost] Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Saragrace Knauf
I will look for it this evening...I am pretty sure it is in the Thyssen-Bornemisza collection, but can't put my finger on this morning. Sg Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:00:27 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Colored shirts in the 16th century? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 6:55 AM -0700 1/18/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote: Ah Ha! http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under dress with this kind of cuff... The portrait shows the garment as being lined, however

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Ron Carnegie
20th century, for european use. - Original Message - From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century? Fair enough, but I don't think the

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 1/18/2008 3:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone know when shirt became applicable to over the underwear rather than the first layer? Well, it depends on whether it's cold or not, I would think. And, y'know,

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Marie Stewart
It could be a 'waistcoat' , sometimes called a 'shirt' in inventories, meaning a layer for warmth. Usually you find them as flannen, flannel, rarely lined silk, or sometimes linsey-woolsey, other materials are possible, I'm just not at my resources. 2cents reading out of context. Mari On Jan

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Ron Carnegie
You do get colored shirts in the 19th century, but they are still underwear. Meant to be worn under other clothing. Ron Carnegie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread michaela de bruce
Ah Ha! http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under dress with this kind of cuff... This type of sleeve appears quite often in dress of Cologne. They are separate sleeves (and here are

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:51:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This appears to be false sleeves and not sleeves of a hemd. *** Indeed. I mean it's lined in red. Does that sound like a shirt or chimese? **Start the year off right.

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:58:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. In a book I have about the Throckmortons (but I'm at the office, not at home, of course), a gentleman's letter to his factor requests a certain amount of tawney fabric for a shirt. Whether we are

[h-cost] Diversarum nationum habitus

2008-01-18 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
I went looking for PIETRO BERTELLI's Diversarum nationum habitus (late 16th C Italian costume) and found several very interesting sites along the way. Ain't serendipity wonderful! Thought that I'd pass them along and the links to the images of Diversarum nationum habitus in case anyone else

Re: [h-cost] Venice Carnival Hat Etiquette?

2008-01-18 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:27 18/01/2008, you wrote: Anybody know the etiquette of whether hats are worn indoors or not a t the Venice Carnival? For some customers whose outfits am making. Look at Pietro Longhi for examples, but my feeling is that they did. Suzi ___

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread MaggiRos
I have in my search for documentation on this subject found 3, count'em, 3, but they're sketchy as evidence goes. 1. King Edward VI's coronation shirtwas crimson or scarlet (I forget which, but it was red). Presumably this is not a good dample for the rest of us, since a) he was a king and b) it

[h-cost] Venice Carnival Hat Etiquette?

2008-01-18 Thread Debloughcostumes
Anybody know the etiquette of whether hats are worn indoors or not a t the Venice Carnival? For some customers whose outfits am making. Debbie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

2008-01-18 Thread Chris Laning
Sharon wrote: At 6:55 AM -0700 1/18/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote: Ah Ha! http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under dress with this kind of cuff... The portrait shows the garment as being