Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-09 Thread Lavolta Press
The problem with starting from a pattern block/sloper is, that a modern sloper is a modern pattern with modern seam lines, etc. Now, you _can_ turn it into a historic pattern of any kind for any era, and some people do. (BTW, the Victorians manufactured a large number of sloper systems,

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:26:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They also assumed different fashionable postures in walking, standing, etc. ** This can be really important. You can dress someone up to the nines and if they slouchor don't

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-09 Thread sunshine_buchler
I've got another probably stupid question: How do you do the fitting??? I mean the corset is - at leat at the waist - much smaller than your real figure, so how can you actually try it on when not yet finished? It must be tight laced and there must be bones in it, else I cannot imagine

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-09 Thread Lavolta Press
Yes. I think sometimes people expect foundation garments alone to give a period posture. They don't. Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:26:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They also assumed different fashionable postures in walking,

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-08 Thread Melanie Schuessler
I've seen this book, and I didn't care for it for the very same reason. It seems counterintuitive to try to make a corset from a pattern block. There's an entirely different principle at work--a different kind of engineering, if you will. It seems to be a book for people who want something

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-08 Thread Kelly Grant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:34:58 -0500 I've seen this book, and I didn't care for it for the very same reason. It seems counterintuitive to try to make a corset from a pattern block. There's an entirely different

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset (Waisted Efforts)

2006-08-08 Thread sunshine_buchler
Probably a stupid question, but how do you all develope the pattern for the different corsets you do? I prefer to start from an existing pattern - either from blowing up one of Waugh's _Corsets Crinolines_ patterns or from a commercial pattern (like Past Patterns) and then fit the heck out

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-08 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
I've got another probably stupid question: How do you do the fitting??? I mean the corset is - at leat at the waist - much smaller than your real figure, so how can you actually try it on when not yet finished? It must be tight laced and there must be bones in it, else I cannot imagine a

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-08 Thread E House
Make up a fitting corset out of inexpensive but heavy non-stretch fabric. (You may want to mine the $1/yd table at walmart, or your local equivalent.) For fitting purposes, you only need one bone per side at the front, side, and back; front-side and back-side bones can be added to combat

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-08 Thread Lavolta Press
You do not have to tight lace to get the correct silhouette for any period. You can make a corset your size, or an inch smaller, without tight lacing. Support and a period silhouette are one thing, extreme body modification (temporary or permanent) is another. As various people have said, a

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-08 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 21:46 08/08/2006, you wrote: Make up a fitting corset out of inexpensive but heavy non-stretch fabric. (You may want to mine the $1/yd table at walmart, or your local equivalent.) For fitting purposes, you only need one bone per side at the front, side, and back; front-side and back-side

Re: [h-cost] (Straight front) corset - fitting

2006-08-08 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Lord, how complicated!! I make up a corset, in the fabric I intend to use, from a customer's measurements, seam the centre front instead of using a busk, but eyelet the back in the normal way. I fit with the seams on the

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset

2006-08-07 Thread Lavolta Press
The idea that simply disagreeing with someone about something is rude is absurd. As for _Waisted Efforts_: Although I make corsets I've never drafted one from a pattern block. But one thing I can say about that book, is that it seriously needs editing and proofreading. Fran Lavolta Press

[h-cost] Straight front corset

2006-08-06 Thread RobinandKelly Dorman
However, this beautiful S-shape of the edwardian times can only be achieved by such a corset... It can be faked to some extent by pooching out the front of the bodice or shirtwaist, and adding a little fullness to the back of a straight-front skirt. This enhancement seems to have been done

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset

2006-08-06 Thread E House
The rude comment part referred to my criticism of corset patterns developed from a pattern block as seen in Waisted Efforts--unless someone with a great deal of skill alters the pattern, the result is almost always all wrong. As to extra padding, the Edwardians came up with an amazing range

Re: [h-cost] Straight front corset

2006-08-06 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
The rude comment part referred to my criticism of corset patterns developed from a pattern block as seen in Waisted Efforts--unless someone with a great deal of skill alters the pattern, the result is almost always all wrong. If you really didn't like the pattern I can see where you'd want

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-05 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
A friend and I made me a corset from the Past Patterns straight front corset pattern. However, it was not a simple/easy project. (...) This sounds exactly like I was afraid the pattern might be. As for comfort, I know very well that the straight-fronted corsets were actually the most

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-05 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
However, this beautiful S-shape of the edwardian times can only be achieved by such a corset... It can be faked to some extent by pooching out the front of the bodice or shirtwaist, and adding a little fullness to the back of a straight-front skirt. This enhancement seems to have been done

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
In this I even must include the Norah Waugh pattern in Corsets Crinolines; while it may well be based on an extant corset, it is in no way representative of the straight front corset, and if you're trying to get that look, you'll be disappointed. Gee. I have one of those, straight out of

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread E House
I learned through lots and lots of trial and error, and staring at extant corsets and ads, magazines, etc until my eyes bled. For years. I don't think you can really come up with a formula for drafting them, and that's not how I do it, anyway. You get to know the shape the pattern pieces

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread sunshine_buchler
A friend and I made me a corset from the Past Patterns straight front corset pattern. However, it was not a simple/easy project: 1) Following the initial sizing, did not give me the S-bend shape I was looking for -- we ended up making the top much more tight fitting then the bottom which

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 8/4/2006 8:56:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend and I made me a corset from the Past Patterns straight front corset pattern. * I don't like this pattern For one, I don't think the actual pattern looks like the

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 8/4/2006 9:22:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't like this pattern In the interest of not being negative...I would like to add that Past Patterns makes a pattern for my favorite corset of all time... #708 1845-1860

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-04 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
That sounded really, really, rude, so I'd like to apologize now and avoid the rush. =} I'm passionate about the fit of corsets, and when I see people wearing ill-fitting corsets and then going on and on about how uncomfortable and torturous corsets are, it makes my teeth itch. But my Waugh

[h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Hi all, does anyone know a good pattern of a 1900-1909 straight front corset? Something like this one: http://www.marquise.de/database/dbout.php?name=k1902_1pfad=1900 ... Not too long over the hips. I'd welcome a pattern which would fit on a modern figure but giving it the S-shape and a slim

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread Katy Bishop
Have you looked at the Past Patterns #106 corset: http://www.pastpatterns.com/106.html I find it gives a wonderful line for c. 1900-1905 (not the most comfortable corset era, at least for me) Katy On 8/3/06, Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, does anyone know a good pattern

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread E House
I've never seen the actual pattern pieces for the Past Patterns version of the straight front corset, so please bear that in mind when I say this: I've been horribly disappointed in the accuracy of the patterns out there for straight front corsets. In this I even must include the Norah Waugh

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Well, I've seen the past patterns corset before, it looks exactly like the one I'm looking for, but I find it very risky to purchase such a pattern where it is impossible to see the finished garment. That's why I'm asking for experiences... Has anyone made a corset from this pattern? The

Re: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread SPaterson
I know the book the author, it does not, in my opinion, teach you how to draft corsets. It does show draping but you have to know how to make corsets first or be very familiar with the medium. Sarah Paterson - Original Message -

RE: [h-cost] straight front corset

2006-08-03 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Don't know of a pattern, but know of a supplier. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zuzana Kraemerova Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:04 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] straight front corset Hi all, does anyone know a good pattern