Re: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Wasn't it Mark Twain who remarked that stories of his demise were greatly exaggerated? The phrase has been used so often that I can't find the original on my favorite search engine. Be that as it may, the death of M has long been predicted. These predictions are of course true because it will

Re: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Greg Kreis
I can get Nancy setup as a Hardhats volunteer so she can have a webpage at Hardhats that she can maintain... ;-) Sorry, Nancy, I felt compelled to remove any technique hurdles so you could make a clear and informed decision... ;-0 ;- Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Someone from my group was

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Richard . Sowinski
Kevin, You are battling an age-old predjudice against M. It seems M was considered old technology (by the un-informed), before it was old ! I think alot of the predjudice goes back to the poorly chosen (IMO) name of MUMPS, for the language. Had it has been named Laser or maybe just M in the

Re: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Nancy E. Anthracite
You turkeys sure can cook up a lot of trouble when I am too busy to find out about it! I'll tget back to all of you later. On Friday 03 December 2004 10:22 am, Greg Kreis wrote: I can get Nancy setup as a Hardhats volunteer so she can have a webpage at Hardhats that she can maintain... ;-)

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Beza, Fil
You might want to point out that if MUMPS is old technology, why is KAISER betting it's EHRon it (EPIC Systems - Cache VAR). http://www.linuxmednews.org/linuxmednews/1044413727/index_html I've read some bad press about UK's National EHR latelybut on a positive note for MUMPS, IDX is a

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Ah...but it is old technology. Of course, so is the wheel. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, You are battling an age-old predjudice against M. It seems M was considered old technology (by the un-informed), before it was old ! I think alot of the predjudice goes back to the poorly

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
And then there are the power plants that still use ... gasp! ... steam! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ormsby, Skip Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Well, yes, but most our cars are not powered by steam today (unless they're electric, that is). There is no contradiction in using old technology and changing with the times. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then there are the power plants that still use ... gasp! ... steam!

[Hardhats-members] Tommy Thompson resigns

2004-12-03 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
FYI From: www.modernhealthcare.com HHS' Thompson resigns; McClellan may be successor HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson submitted his resignation to President Bush and is expected to formally announce his departure at a news conference later today. His likely successors include CMS Administrator Mark

[Hardhats-members] New Information on VistA-Office EHR

2004-12-03 Thread Michael Ginsburg
Please check the CMS web site for new information on the VistA-Office Field Test. http://www.cms.hhs.gov/quality/pfqi.asp Regards, Mike Ginsburg Project Manager Iowa Foundation for Medical Care 410-581-2543 - Office 410-419-9371 - Cell ---

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Link, Chuck M
Ah yes. . . Because of those lobbying efforts, the VA tried the newer technology at three of it's medical center. Each site failed, miserably. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gordon Moreshead Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 3,

[Hardhats-members] Interesting Re Linux/Solaris Open Source Licensing

2004-12-03 Thread Nancy E. Anthracite
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5475182.html -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype.

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread David Sommers
It also doesn't help that current M providers don't say 'M'. They don't because it is [currently] perceived as legacy and instead push object oriented, relational, SQL, etc. By pushing other technologies those vendors can be comparable to Oracle and Microsoft on paper and for traditional CIOs.

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Marc Aylesworth
Vista is not old technology because of the language that it is written in. Vists is called old technology because it only has crude user interfaces that are text based. It was designed a long time ago and there is still code that is based on the assumptions of a time that used linited resourses

RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Steven . Tomlinson
Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of GT.M? Steven B. Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui www.PacificHui.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: Friday,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread whitten
I believe Bhaskar has said in the past that other than platform specific details (like generating code for non x86 CPUs) the Open Source code is the same code used on all systems supported on GT.M Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of GT.M? Steven B.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Steve -- This Krung Thai Bank deployment was on Sun SPARC Solaris, on which GT.M is more traditionally licensed and priced (i.e., GT.M on Sun SPARC Solaris is not open source and not free software). I would like to clarify (just in case there is a possible misunderstanding) that there are not

Re: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Nancy E. Anthracite
Solaris not being open source is allegedly about to change. On Friday 03 December 2004 05:50 pm, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Steve -- This Krung Thai Bank deployment was on Sun SPARC Solaris, on which GT.M is more traditionally licensed and priced (i.e., GT.M on Sun SPARC Solaris is not open source

RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Tomlinson, Steven B
Aloha Bhaskar, Thanks for the clarification, I have been wondering what (if any) differences there were between the GT.M distributions. Steven B. Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui www.PacificHui.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Have you all seen this? M21 - raising the standard again. I find the web-site most interesting, especially the references to the users of M outside healthcare. http://www.m21.uk.com/definition.php In their new to M? page, they've turned the table on the referencing the word legacy on the SQL

[Hardhats-members] Don't you love antiques? I do!

2004-12-03 Thread redhuan daniel oon
Hi, I agree with Marc, and let me offer my Malaysian 7.8 cents equivalent. According to Dr. Lester Thurow, there is only one quantum leap in technology - From the Pony Express to the Telegraph. He described the Internet as merely Telegraph with Pictures. He is still waiting for the real next

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread David Sommers
Agreed - and there are a ton of packages to install and capable of fitting our needs. Heck, they even have .NET versions that run on IIS/Windows. We had discussed something like this in the past in regards to just collating documentation and nothing happened. I'd love a Wiki site to: 1) Bring

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Actually, as soon as I posted this, I realized that there is already a wikki site up doing this. Here is the URL: http://www.mcenter.com/mtrc/pmwiki/pmwiki.php I created a news page, and I encourage you all to add to it! Kevin --- David Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed - and there

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Beza, Fil
I added a couple of device file entries but the first line of each device is in times roman and the rest is in courier How can I make all of the text into courier to match the rest of the page? There are not device file examples for GT.M, it would be nice if there are examples there. Fil

RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Steve -- There are some differences down in the detail level, mostly as a result of differences between hardware architectures, operating systems, as well as what development found funding and what did not. There are differences between GT.M on Alpha/VMS and GT.M on UNIX/Linux: the underlying

[Hardhats-members] GT.M inside (was Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M)

2004-12-03 Thread Maury Pepper
Bhaskar, As long as you have the hood up, I'd like to ask about GT.M with respect to linking. As you know, the recent conversations about open source licensing touched on the issue of static versus dynamic linking. This seems to be the line that separates contaminated from uncontaminated

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Fil, I just looked at your entry, and I see what you mean. I tried to see if I could figure out why it was doing that, but couldn't. Sorry. I didn't set up that wikki site. But it seems to me to be a great resource. I think no one uses it because the URL is hard to remember. I have it in my

RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library

2004-12-03 Thread Dee Knapp
Kevin, Nancy, WorldVistA: I have a news story library on my personal wiki - I'm willing to assist - Let me know where to post. ...Dee Knapp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Dal Molin Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:48 AM To: