Re: [Hardhats-members] SSH, Rsync communication between CPRS WindwosClient and OpenVistaServer

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 7/31/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using a recent CPRS and version of VistA, it is built in. It usually tries to connect with the new broker and then defaults to the old if the new does not work. It has worked with Windows for quite a while, but only recently

[Hardhats-members] Security Arguments using OpenSSH and GPG

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/1/05, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That makes the security stronger, it all depends how secure the system needs to be. The subject is relative to where the computer is, the information on it and other security measures taken. The person that is connected to a

Re: [Hardhats-members] SSH, Rsync communication between CPRS WindwosClient and OpenVistaServer

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
There seems to be some basic misunderstanding on this point. It is not inherently necessary to run the super server ([x]inetd) to be able to accept multiple concurrent connections on the same port, it is only due to a limitation in the MUMPS language that this is so. The reason is that in

Re: [Hardhats-members] Security Arguments using OpenSSH and GPG

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
In my opinion, you're making a basic mistake here, and that is ignoring the software engineering principle of separation of concerns. Rather than saying that VistA should support connection via SSH rather than telnet, I believe you are much better off saying VistA should be able to work

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can/could MUMPS call OpenSSH, GPG and Rsync?

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Lieman
On 8/2/05, Zeno Davatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but could MUMPS call OpenSSH, GPG ans Rsync to connect client and server?If that is possible then the user does not have to install xinetd.bestZeno I think the point here is that MUMPS cannot listen to the socket, and spawn a child process to

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can/could MUMPS call OpenSSH, GPG and Rsync?

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, Mike Lieman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/05, Zeno Davatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but could MUMPS call OpenSSH, GPG ans Rsync to connect client and server? I think the point here is that MUMPS cannot listen to the socket, and spawn a child process to deal with the

[Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
Hi Ok, I installed xinetd on my Gentoo-Linux. Is there any configuration HowTo that I could follow how to configure xinetd so that it opens my port 9200 for the Windows Client? Thanks for any hints. Zeno --- SF.Net email is sponsored by:

Re: [Hardhats-members] To gin up

2005-08-02 Thread Chris J Edkins/HOSPOPS/VET/UTIA
Try this link. http://www.allwords.com/word-gen%20up%20on%20something.html Looks like British military/civil service slag from WWII to me. A Shortening of Get up to speed on the general information. Chris Edkins Senior Computer Systems Specialist The University of Tennessee College of

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2005-08-02 Thread bsoler
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Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I don't know if anyone has set up the Broker to run under xinetd on a Unix based system, but if it were me, I'd look for documentation on how to set up the Broker as a VMS service and adapt it to Unix and xinetd. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question

Re: [Hardhats-members] Business Readiness Rating: A Proposed Open Standard to Facilitate Assessment and Adoption of Open Source Software

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I took a quick look at your white paper, and it all looks very interesting. The criteria seem well thought out and reasonably objective. I fear that many/most open source projects would not fare especially  well by these criteria, but that certainly does not mean they aren't sound selection

RE: [Hardhats-members] SSH, Rsync communication between CPRS WindwosClient and OpenVistaServer

2005-08-02 Thread Doug Martin
Actually, multithreaded TCP listeners are possible under DSM, MSM, and Caché. I'm not sure about gtm. DSM supports this through a VMS service called UCX. MSM supports it through an MSM service called MSERVER. In both of these models, the service monitors the specified port and hands off the

[Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if anyone has set up the Broker to run under xinetd on a Unix based system, but if it were me, I'd look for documentation on how to set up the Broker as a VMS service and adapt it to Unix and xinetd. ok, I have no clue what the

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Lieman
On 8/2/05, Zeno Davatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if anyone has set up the Broker to run under xinetd on a Unix based system, but if it were me, I'd look for documentation on how to set up the Broker as a VMS service and adapt it to

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Are you connecting from localhost? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Aug 2, 2005, at 6:22 AM, Zeno Davatz wrote: Well dunno. My /etc/xinetd file goes like this: \\ snip # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
This is from the xinetd.conf(5) manual page for OS X, not Linux, but it should be the same in either case. only_fromdetermines the remote hosts to which the particular service is available. Its value is a list of IP

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Mail screwed up the formatting of the xinetd documentation Greg sent (at least for me), but here are some useful links: Xinetd home page - http://xinetd.org A tutorial - http://www.macsecurity.org/resources/xinetd/tutorial.shtml One of many xinetd man pages on the net:

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the broker been run with GT.M under xinetd. Indeed, it has been run under xinetd responding to a TCP port forwarded over an ssh tunnel. In case some GT.M documentation helps:

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Are you sure you want only_from = localhost ? After all, aren't you trying to connect from a Windows box? --- Zeno Davatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the broker been run with GT.M under xinetd. Indeed, it has been run under xinetd

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Zeno -- What you have definitely will not work. If /home/vista/FOIAVistA/vista --run is the script I packaged with OpenVistA, running it in response to a TCP connection request from a CPRS GUI client will result in Xdialog attempting to open a dialog window asking for a directory to be selected.

[Hardhats-members] Fw: [VistA Office EHR-Forum] Introduction -- VistA-Office EHR evaluation for association members

2005-08-02 Thread Maury Pepper
Title: Introduction -- VistA-Office EHR evaluation for association members I'm cross-posting this message which may be of interest to some on this list who are not on the VOE-Forumlist. - Original Message - From: Gary Pritts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005

Re: [Hardhats-members] Constructs of the M language

2005-08-02 Thread James Gray
I would go back to your first sentence. What are the constructs of the language in 2005? Before 1995 the constructs were the standard for Mumps. Are the extensions that GT.M or Cache have added to the language constructs of the language? Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Greg

Re: [Hardhats-members] Constructs of the M language

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Woodhouse
That's a good question. It's not directly relevant to the question at hand because xinetd is clearly not part of the MUMPS language. Still, it is clearly reasonable to ask what constitutes the MUMPS language, now that we are well into 2005. Or should we say *which* MUMPS language? Just as a

RE: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
The broker service will not show as running until there is a connection. Xinetd listens for a connection and then starts the appropriate service (Daemon) to connect to. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [KSB] GT.M is probably complaining that one or more of the five directories doesn't exist, not that the /home/vista/o is empty. Note, by the way that export gtmroutines ... $gtm_dist must be one line in the shell script, not two lines as broken

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Woodhouse
For documentation on how to set up the service under VMS, see http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broker_(RPC)/XWB1_1p35um.pdf I'm not entirely sure what changes you'll have to make for GT.M/Linux, or, for that matter, whether someone else has documented the

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
The last line of your bhaskar-script reads: export gtmgbldir=$vista_home/g/mumps.gld $gtm_dist/mumps -run XXX^YYY It should be two lines: $gtm_dist/mumps -run XXX^YYY is a separate line from the export command. -- Bhaskar On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:47 -0500, Zeno Davatz wrote: On 8/2/05, K.S.

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last line of your bhaskar-script reads: export gtmgbldir=$vista_home/g/mumps.gld $gtm_dist/mumps -run XXX^YYY It should be two lines: $gtm_dist/mumps -run XXX^YYY is a separate line from the export command. Yes, see my last mail and its

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:56 -0500, Zeno Davatz wrote: [KSB] ...snip... Ok corrected the one line you told me - left the last one as is. Now your script goes like this (see attachment), and I get following errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ./bhaskar-script %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while

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2005-08-02 Thread bsoler
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Business Readiness Rating: A Proposed Open Standard to Facilitate Assessment and Adoption of Open Source Software

2005-08-02 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I believe that CMS intends to go for CCHIT certification. I personally feel that that is the certification VistA needs. You can download the current list of requirements at www.CCHIT.org On Tuesday 02 August 2005 08:50 am, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: I took a quick look at your white paper, and

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 8/2/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:56 -0500, Zeno Davatz wrote: [KSB] ...snip... Ok corrected the one line you told me - left the last one as is. Now your script goes like this (see attachment), and I get following errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

RE: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
The error you are getting indicates the one machine can not see the other. Are you using an IP address or a machine name. this is an example of an xinet file for cvs I have: Service cvspserver { port = 2401 socket_type = stream protocol = tcp wait = no user = root server = /usr/bin/cvs

Re: [Hardhats-members] xinetd configuration for OpenVista Server

2005-08-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 13:06 -0500, Bhaskar, KS wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:56 -0500, Zeno Davatz wrote: [KSB] ...snip... Ok corrected the one line you told me - left the last one as is. Now your script goes like this (see attachment), and I get following errors: [EMAIL

RE: [Hardhats-members] Another VistA-Office EHR article

2005-08-02 Thread Richard . Sowinski
They must have removed the first article on Trademark Arrogance from their website. It's not there now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maury Pepper Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

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2005-08-02 Thread bsoler
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Another VistA-Office EHR article

2005-08-02 Thread Carroll, Richard (EDS)
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[Hardhats-members] Fascinating quote

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Woodhouse
John Backus (the 'B' of BNF) said the following about the development of Fortan I. All I can say is that I agree some 2 or 300%: It was our belief that if Fortran, during its first months, were to translate any reasonable 'scientific' program into an object program only half as fast as its

Re: [Hardhats-members] SSH, Rsync communication between CPRS WindwosClient and OpenVistaServer

2005-08-02 Thread Jim Self
Gregory Woodhouse wrote: So, in other words, unless you are using Cache, you need to rely on some external application, or (at least) operating system dependent mechanism to handle multi-threaded TCP. That is not exactly true. The only reason Cache is an exception is that it implements a

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can/could MUMPS call OpenSSH, GPG and Rsync?

2005-08-02 Thread Gary Monger
This would be implementation specific. All implementations I've worked with support calls to the OS to run such utilities. I believe Cache does handle sockets natively, including multi-listeners. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeno

Re: [Hardhats-members] SSH, Rsync communication between CPRS WindwosClient and OpenVistaServer

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, setting up servers to listen and provide various services on various ports is ultimately a systems configuration issue that should be handled consistently for all services running on a given host. Starting up and shutting down services

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2005-08-02 Thread bsoler
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2005-08-02 Thread chuck5566
I say it's time for the return of the Pirates of the MDC. I say we tie the scurvy dog to the yardarm, with hee's own USB and PS2 cables. A! On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Actually yesundortunately I don't have the list admin password. The list admin can

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2005-08-02 Thread Greg Kreis
I marked his account as 'no mail' so hopefully that quit its reply saying he is out. Sorry. If you see something that you feel needs admin action (inappropriate messages, automated messages that are annoying, spam ,etc.) just send me a message and I'll do my best to get on it. My address is